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[Jana]

Those suffering extended depression get the first half of the equation right “facing reality,” but they then fail to continue the process of emergent consciousness by going the next magic step and “transcending reality.” That is allowing a transcendent reality to emerge through God’s Grace. The transcendent reality becomes us when we fully embrace our destiny...through our willingness to suffer we transcend suffering. Some say that we only grow through pain, but I like to think we grow really by learning the lessons of pain, which forces us to lessening our separation and re-member the One.

[marianthi]

Wise words Jana.  Thank you.

[jimtzu]

to rest in the suffering and transcend reality you have to be at least partially awake. when depression hits for many who are sleepwalking thru life they tend to wallow in it, creating their own little egoic hell.  wanting so badly to get out of the loop but not knowing how to get out of their own way.  what to do.. what to do...

you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him think.....

[Jana]

Purgatory is normally seen as the purification of certain souls after death in order to allow entry into friendship with God, and consequently the eternal happiness of heaven. But for those living in active kundalini "purgatory" can describe the middle phase, where you can tangibly see and feel the collective hell "because" you have one foot in heaven. There is the Grace and openness to become cognizant of a larger reality, but as yet the seeker doesn't have the spiritual strength to fully embrace heaven while in hell, through deep recognition of the Tao and nondualism. Purgatory can be seen as the purifying fire of kundalini that slowly eliminates the ego, removing separation and uniting the soul with the Universal. The successful navigation of this phase requires the submission to a vocation of reparations, regeneration and spiritualization in ones own life and in the world around one.

The word "purgatory" is also used, in a non-specific sense, to mean any place or condition of suffering or torment, especially one that is temporary.[6] In addition to accepting the states of heaven and hell, Roman Catholicism envisages a third state before being admitted to heaven. According to Roman Catholic doctrine, some souls are not sufficiently free from sin and its consequences to enter the state of heaven immediately, nor are they so sinful as to be destined for hell either.[8] Such souls, ultimately destined to be united with God in heaven, must first endure purgatory - a state of purification.[9] In purgatory, souls "achieve the holiness necessary to enter the joy of heaven." wiki

[jimtzu]

According to Roman Catholic doctrine, some souls are not sufficiently free from sin and its consequences to enter the state of heaven immediately, nor are they so sinful as to be destined for hell either.[8] Such souls, ultimately destined to be united with God in heaven, must first endure purgatory - a state of purification.[9] In purgatory, souls "achieve the holiness necessary to enter the joy of heaven." wiki

would that be the time and state where we havn't yet accepted and forgiven ourselves to allow ourselves to be one with Ourselves, in both the personal and collective sense (God) ?   

[Jana]

Yea perhaps purgatory is the burning process of conscience...not only does one burn up ones own sins, but burns up the sins of the parents and culture. As Jung says, "the only sin is unconsciousness." Thus if we haven't exactly been loved by our parents etc... then the fires of purgatory burn through this unlove (unconsciousness) allowing us to ultimately love ourselves. Till then we are somewhat at war with a world that seems out to get us. As the fires of purgatory burn, we become increasingly at peace with ourselves and the world.

[marianthi]

I suppose the process of purgatory in Christianity and that of ´tapasya´(or burning out of impurities through acts of discipline) in Yoga, both recognized the need of some kind of fire to burn out our ´blind spots´.  Anyone knows of an equivalent  in psychiatry, other than the cost and effort of spilling out one´s innermost to an analyst or to a therapy group? 

Would the behavioural-mental re-wiring that should happen with succesful psychiatric exchange qualify in that direction?

[Michael]

Anyone knows of an equivalent  in psychiatry, other than the cost and effort of spilling out one´s innermost to an analyst or to a therapy group?

Would the behavioural-mental re-wiring that should happen with succesful psychiatric exchange qualify in that direction?

Well Ayahausca and Holotropic Breathwork are two that I know personally, and I suppose there's probably many more experiential modalities as well...

To me, the notion of "sin" in this context is far from concrete.  It can be an analog of a few different ways of thinking, or paradigms.  The religious is the least compelling and meaningful to moi.. the most compelling is in terms of awareness, or consciousness and integration, or integrity.

Talk therapy can be useful, though only superficially comparatively speaking. 

[Jana]

William Glasser of Reality Therapy  says that spiritual reconstruction requires bonding and involvement between two individuals...a committment of spirit if you will. All forms of irresponsibility (pathology) represent a lack of this. Social involvement allows for more of a balance between thinking-feeling-intuition-sensation perhaps.
The fires of purgatory would burn through the blocks and voids to social connection which translates as communion with the divine on the spiritual level.

[Jana]

Susan Hsu; I've been wearing crystals for a couple of years, and these crystals started behaving like the zero field explanation that you gave.  I don't know if it goaded my system into this route or I made the crystals go this way.

A: thats interesting. crystals are being used in technology that is attempting to tap into zeropoint.
what kind of crystals are you using.
perhaps the effect they offer is to just increase coherency in the vibration of your atoms

see john hutchinson on google video, he made zeropoint permanent crystal batteries that give off a small charge without even being charged or recharged.

Susan hsu: I am very attracted to sugilite... the reason it is purple/magenta is the manganese, which is in that "transitional" section of the periodic table of elements.  I wore it..and it became lighter... and the stone became transparent...it behaved rather oddly...and my crystals vendors started noticing that I was the only one who could "do" this to this stone.  Others would wear it, and it would die.  Coincidentally, this stone was sold as an antidote to cancer, and what is cancer but the "miscommunication" with zero point.
 
I tried to explain to myself why it was lighter...I have a scientific background, and my high school days were spent studying quantum physics (don't ask me why...), so I couldn't theoretically nor conceptually explain what was going on.  I live in China, and the Chinese have mystical explanations, but that wasn't what I wanted to hear.  All I knew is that something was going on with the "other side"
 
Then I came upon ur article about monoatomic ions... and it made sense to me that some of these ions in warped shape would make these crystals behave in a "superconducting" mode.. In this mode "cooper - pairs" are the same thing that u've described on how the whole atom actually warps space-time in such a manner that it does not have as much "mass" as atoms that are 3d.  So these monoatoms are actually 2d instead of fully in our world.    Some people believe gravity is a result of going from 2d to the full 3d, kinda like surface scratching into this world.  Not only that...these "monoatoms" influences a great deal the behavior of the rest of the molecules in their surrounding areas... just like how it makes a opaque stone transparent, which can indicate a change in the bond angles of these molecules...
 
It's not just sugilite that has this behavior...all crystals do, just easier to see in sugilites

A; Sugilite allegedly has a harmonizing effect on the nerves and brain. Naturally formed through millions of years, crystals have the stored powers of nature and earthsoul that has mastery of all.

Normally in jewelry making when they want to change the color of a crystal they use heat. Whereas Chi might have a similar effect, and might even be more effective at color change than mere heat.

New John Chang video  The power of Chi!
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aos0hnwiHt8
 
Hand infra red measured  boils water     steam  202 degrees
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6UTGkC73GE&feature=related

I had a high level dream this morning which may shed light on the transmutation of your crystal. There was a blue spaceship, above which was a smaller vehicle…the small vehicle looked like a fold up cell phone the same color as the space ship. It folded itself in half ‘closed’ then flew around the spaceship, I watched as it seek out its slot and fitted into a rectangular gap in the neck of the ship. Then I flew around the front nose of the spaceship and up to the ‘bridge.’ The bridge had large clear windows like that of an oceangoing ship, I noticed it was empty of humanoids and seemed to have fingerprinted smudged glass.

Your chi is changing the angular rotation of the atomic bonds in the crystal which makes it refract light differently, hence the different color (clear?). It would be great if you could find a lab or technician that could test the piezoelectric and other properties of your charged crystals. Or do other kinds of experiments with them such as plant growth trials…with charged and noncharged. Or finding a chi master and see if he can pick up the sensation of your crystal compared to noncharged ones while hidden under a cloth. Also find a lab with measuring scales that measure minute changes in weight and see if you can do some measuring before and after you charge up your crystals.  How long does it take till one of your sugilites changes its color?

SH: How long does it take for sugilite to change?  depends on the stone and your development.  The one I've bought a year ago didn't change until now--it might be because I've changed....other stones can change even in one day

[marianthi]

Well Ayahausca and Holotropic Breathwork are two that I know personally, and I suppose there's probably many more experiential modalities as well...

Talk therapy can be useful, though only superficially comparatively speaking. 

I agree with you there, Michael.  Talk therapy can have limited power.  Where I find other modalities of therapy failing is in integrating some of the deep experiences they bring about into the life/system of the one undergoing them. Like ¨Yeah, I´ve seen the Sun and Moon re-born through each other when we did X , but I´m back to this level, as miserable as an oiled gull¨.

Of course, much has to do with who is your therapy companion, healer, doctor, how long and how far you are both willing to go at it together - and the darned whim of the powers-that-be: luck or Grace.

I´ve found the latter essential.   .  What made the big difference for you or others here?

Hugs,
M.

[Jana]

Solitude.
However at the moment I am really lacking sane companionship...
people are going quite mad here in Boulder, with the political and now economic stress. Not sure if this will make or break us. I could really use a sane humorous companion
It appears that the powers that be are laying the psychological grounds for the fascist state still, even with Obama waiting in the wings...I doubt America has been 'cooked' quite like this before.

yea, peoples behavior is freaking me out at present, so i have to meta-adapt. Manage my cortisol levels for the first time in my life...i just decided to run a baseline of 1/2 hour a day, and 10mins extra for every insult or wierdness...that should up my game some. i had stopped running out of wanting to die due to having to do an awakening alone, each time i would try to get intimate say with a guy, they would be damaging...i got to think that humans are generally damaging if you try to get close to them, hence the lack of personal rel. in my life. i do feel though that an increasing number of americans are becoming quite mad with the stress...thus i have to start doing compassion meditation in order to not react in kind. we are here to actually decrease insanity in the world through love.

Ho'Oponopono: The Hawaiian forgiveness practice is indeed the fastest most healing force, cutting through the shame that binds the ego into recursive thinking and suffering. It is described in Zero Limits: The Secret Hawaiian System for Wealth, Health, Peace, and More by Joe Vitale and Ihaleakala Hew, Ph.D Len.

[Jana]

I have devised a list of herbs you might find useful to put into smoothies, capsules, or chug in a shot glass with juice.
This is not a comprehensive list, it comprises of the herbs I myself am ordering from herbalcom.com within the next month or two.
These adaptogens will beef up hormones and brain power, reduce cortisol, lower stress etc...
Tribulus terrestris powder $10.95/lb
Rhodiola Root Powder $13.95/lb
Ashwagandha Root Powder $6.95/lb
Astragalus root  powder $6.75/lb
Eleutherococcus root powder (Siberian Ginseng) $5.05/lb
Dong quai root powder $6.60/lb

Also for you smoothie mix you might like to consider:
Catuaba bark powder $12.90/lb
Ginkgo leaf powder $4.75/lb
Licorice root powder $3.75/lb
Maca root powder $10.65/lb
Bee Pollen $5.70/lb
Olive leaf powder $3.95/lb
Bromelain or Papain powder for enzymes.

St. John's Wort cut and sift for tea.

[Jana]

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[Jana]

I dunno, I am a little nervie about Kens insistance about propheting the integral banner and incessant spiral catagorizing, but I suppose that kind of thing might be attractive to some. Push in space, and you go in the opposite direction is what comes to mind...
see videos on open integral: http://opensourceintegral.ning.com/

To make ones facial skin (or any skin for that matter) smoother, reduce wrinkles, pimples, inflammation, large pores or any other skin imperfection…I recently discovered a novel approach.

1. First mix about 1 tsp aloe gel with ½ tsp papain powder (herbalcom.com) and apply this to the entire face before going to bed.
2. Once this is dried apply an ointment comprised of 1 fl oz of lotion or coco butter and ½ tsp of cayenne pepper. Keep this in a small jar. Apply this mixture to any imperfections on your face or other areas of the body that need healing. Not sure if it works for varicose veins. But it works for acne, herpes, skin cancer, psoriasis, rosacea, lupus, lice, cuts and scrapes.

CAYENNE
Cayenne is perhaps the most useful and valuable herb, not only for the entire digestive system, but also for the heart and circulatory system. Cayenne is the greatest blood circulation stimulant known. It reduces blood cholesterol, triglyceride levels, and platelet aggregation - making them less “sticky.” A combo of cayenne and hawthorn berries is used to strengthen the heart and prevent heart attacks. Cayenne may help weight loss by boosting metabolism while suppressing appetite; it boosts energy as well as lower stress-related fatigue and depression. It aids elimination and assimilation, and helps the body to create hydrochloric acid, alleviates dyspepsia, stomachaches, cramping pains, gas, chronic pain, sore throats, headaches and toothache.
It is a very high source of Vitamins A and C, has the complete B complex, and is very rich in organic calcium and potassium. Other constituents of cayenne are vitamins E and carotenoids. You can add cayenne to most of your herb formulas prior to capsulating, use it as an ingredient in cooking, or add a pinch to your fresh juices. People sometimes fast using the “The Master Cleanser” (lemon juice, maple syrup, cayenne and water), but I don’t handle the sugar in this very well.
Capsaicin cream is a potent topical nerve and muscle pain-relieving treatment, used for psoriasis, skin ulcers, insect bites, itchy skin, rheumatic pains and arthritis, pimples and inflammatory skin conditions. The capsaicin in chili peppers accelerates healing by promoting the growth of the fibroblast cells of the connective tissue. You can make your own cayenne cream by mixing ½ teaspoon of cayenne pepper into 1 oz of lotion or balm. This heat rub is useful for jaw and neck pain, strained ankles and such. It will help energy move through any area that seems blocked, congested or cramped. It stings and reddens the skin for half an hour so keep well away from the eyes. Whether taking internally or applying externally do an initial “little” test to check your tolerance level and the potency and dose of the cayenne.