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« on: September 18, 2008, 04:00:09 PM »

Bart Prince is an architect that is conceptually "free" enough to create those cathedral glasshouse interiors: tropical indoor jungle spaces.
www.bartprince.com/projects.html

My favorite architect is Santiago Calatrava. His work is too holy for words.
www.calatrava.com/
www.youtube.com/watch?v=3YOsph6r8sk

Ceramic water filter:
www.pottersforpeace.org/
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« Reply #1 on: September 18, 2008, 07:36:08 PM »

My favorite architect is rem koolhaas. I'm anxious to visit that seattle public library that he built. This friend of mine says that the fundamental problem with aesthetics in architecture is that all boxes are ugly.





Ok, so it looks like a big, homemade chickenwire-birdcage assembled by a retard.


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« Reply #2 on: September 19, 2008, 11:11:57 PM »

Too linear geometric for me...if something doesn't have the Schauberger stamp of sacred geometry on it, then it is a lesser animal...more reptilian. Schauberger's aesthetics are nature's aesthetics in a way that Bucky F. never quite got. You can see the deepest spiritual integrity in all of his designs. In fact there should be a Schauberger school of architecture right along side the Steiner school of architecture...and then cross pollinate via selective breeding between the universities in order to create left/right genius babies...that are capable of building a reGenerative urban landscape.
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One of the best places to start with Viktor’s work is Hidden Nature: The Startling Insights of Viktor Schauberger by Alick Barthologmew. Then you can read Living Water...then you will be ready for FERTILE EARTH which is the most important mystical book ever written. Do not try and read it however until you have build up your love, sensitivity and Schau-language skills with some of the more preliminary books and youtube videos.

Living Water: Viktor Schauberger and the Secrets of Natural Energy
by Olof Alexandersson

The Water Wizard
by Viktor Schauberger and translated and edited by Callum Coats
   
Nature as Teacher
by Viktor Schauberger and translated and edited by Callum Coats

Energy Evolution
by Viktor Schauberger and translated and edited by Callum Coats

The Fertile Earth: Nature's Energies in Agriculture, Soil Fertilization and Forestry by Viktor Schauberger (One of the most esoteric holy books ever written)

A Blueprint For A Better World (2002) Brian Desborough – (Lloyd Zirbes, Viktor Schauberger, Nikola Tesla, Edwin V. Gray, Thomas Henry Moray, Nathan Stubblefield.. and others. brilliant and lucid description of Schauberger's work).



http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5643559434275921302 —Sacred Living Geometry -Enlightened Environmental Theories of Viktor Schauberger by Callum Coats
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYwW6j7dK7I  —Callum Coats on Water
www.filmstream.com.au/extraordinary.html  —Callum’s Film Company
www.Schauberger-Ecotechnology.com  —Callum Coats

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2154484291617481992 —Viktor Schauberger segment on UFOs
www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dfh2yrZAm2g —Schauberger, Nazi, UFOs

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7704486331395662247 —IN German, but you get to see the sacred geometry of Schaubergers antigravity flying saucer.

http://users.rcn.com/zap.dnai/zeropoint/advanced/vortex.txt —Great summary by Shane Hall

A listing of groups and individuals working on research and development inspired by Schauberger's work:
http://schauberger.co.uk/links.shtml

www.eco-restore.com  — Offers cutting edge ecologically oriented technologies and restoration services. Water vitalizing/filter systems, organic/biodynamic agriculture supplies, sustainable energy solutions, natural science books including all of Viktor Schauberger's work, and much more.



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« Reply #5 on: September 23, 2008, 10:30:20 AM »

www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2005/11/051128194911.htm  —Leaf Scorch Blight infecting urban trees across America

www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/09/080918170819.htm —Aspirin-like chemical given off by stressed trees.

URBAN BLIGHT
The trees are the lungs and liver of a city.

I propose that to cure the decline of urban tree populations we apply topical applications of compost mixtures that incorporate city compost, healthy fungi and bacteria, minerals from shale, plus algae grown in city sewage bioreactors that produce methane for energy and algae fertilizer as a byproduct. The gelatinous compounds and minerals from seaweeds should also be incorporated into the mix to provide colloidal holding hydrating capacity. This comprehensive remedy can be applied both in liquid and in solid form depending on the site requirements. Once fully “cured” with mixture will be sweat smelling and can even be used as a foliar spray. Not only will regenerating the trees protect them from decline and aid in air quality and urban cooling, but healthy tree immunity ensures that widespread pandemics of disease and insect attack do not occur which reduces the potential for forest fire.

To fight the pollution and stress of "modern" life we need more nutrition not less. And this applies to our Urban Trees also. Our urban trees are suffering scorching and impaired leaf growth because they are starving for minerals, humus, healthy microbe populations and mucolaneous colloidal molecules in the soil. If the leaves cannot make adequate chlorophyll they cannot build up the chemicals and resources needed for their immunity to pollution, disease, insects, harsh weather and UV sunlight. The health of the tree is a reflection of the health of the soil. We humans have interfered with the natural recycling of nutrients within urban and rural ecosystems, disrupting everything from the soil, to the air.

Coming from rural NZ I know how food is supposed to taste... Rockdust permaculture in Hawaii...makes the best food you will taste anywhere...it has so much electrical lifeforce it literally blows your head off when you eat it. Once food is devoid of plentiful minerals and lifeforce then disease, depression, addiction and all manner of dysfunction sets in. The same imbalance, degeneration and depletion we see in the environment, we see in our own health.

The Survival of Civilization, John Hamaker (Rockdust remineralization and climate change, Carboncycle Iceage Theory)
Paramagnetism: Rediscovering Nature's Secret Force of Growth by Philip S. Callahan

Fertility from the Ocean Deep, Charles Walters, founder and executive editor of Acres U.S.A. www.sea-crop.com/  http://cropsoil.psu.edu/sylvia/mycorrhiza.htm
Sea Energy Agriculture by M.D. Murray Maynard http://oceangrown.com/
Eco-Farm, An Acres U.S.A. Primer: by Charles Walters
Minerals for the Genetic Code: by Charles Walters
Plants grown with ORMUS and seacrop…many times larger and more nutritious:
http://www.subtleenergies.com/ormus/tw/plants.htm  (see pictures)

Viktor Schauberger - possibly the most forward-thinking sciphilosopher mystic of all time.
The Fertile Earth: Nature's Energies in Agriculture, Soil Fertilization and Forestry by Viktor Schauberger (One of the most esoteric holy books ever written)
Living Water: Viktor Schauberger and the Secrets of Natural Energy, Olof Alexandersson,
Energy Evolution, Viktor Schauberger
Living Energies: Exposition of Concepts Viktor Schauberger by Callum Coats
Hidden Nature by Alick Bartholomew, (Schauberger’s main themes.)
The Schauberger Keys, by Alick Bartholomew.
The Water Wizard: The Extraordinary Properties of Natural Water by Viktor Schauberger

BUCKWHEAT GOOP AND SOIL MATRIXING MOLECULES
In growing my sprouts I found that the buckwheat gives off a thick gelatinous goop as it germinates. This being rather unpalatable I used to rinse it off and put the goop on a potplant. I noticed that the plant immediately responded with increased growth and greenness, whereas it hadn’t when I gave it the soak water of my other varieties of sprouts. It dawned on me that the assimilation faculty of the roots had improved with the introduction of the goop and that mere minerals and nitrogen had not contributed significantly to increased growth. Goop-mucigel consists of mucopolysaccharides and glycoproteins and inorganic salts suspended in water producing colloidal homogenization and holding water in the soil to serve as protective matrix which allows minerals and molecules to be more readily uptaken by plant root hairs. These molecules would naturally form from the breakdown of plant and animal material in a natural ecosystem, however urban environments starve the soil of these soil-matrix molecules, thereby the soil looses its water holding capacity, its ability to withstand leaching, its colloidal suspension of nutrients for supplying plant roots, the protection of root hairs and an soil condition that supports thriving microbe populations.
Water is the substrate in which the process of life occurs, hence life exhibits hydrophyllic (water-loving), colloidal (water suspending) properties. Bioactive molecules are electromagnetically able to form a colloidal suspension in the water of life. The precipitation of hydrophilic colloids of the protoplasm causes cell death. Minerals in life are held in colloidal bonds (chelated) with hydrophilic substances such as gelatin, albumin, collagen and mucopolysaccharides. In their chelated bonds minerals have 98% assimilation capacity by the body..
(See CELLULAR UPTAKE OF LARGE MOLECULES on Bargyla Rateaver’s work in the attachment)

LIQUID FERTILIZER
I made an ultra effective liquid fertilizer tea that makes plants green within hours...with a much faster growth rate than I had with my other fert formulas.
I used nearly 1/2gallon of rainwater, 1 cup of buckwheat goop, 1 cup of soakwater from barley, 1 Tbs liquid seaweed, 1 Tbs Fulvic, 1/2 tsp liquid silicon, 1 tsp dead-sea-salt sole and dash of mag/cal powder along with 2 tsp of EFFECTIVE MICROORGANISMS EM•1, and 1 Tbsp of raw honey (or molasses).
Then I bubbled this with my aquarium aerator for 2 hours...holding the tube down with a quartz crystal. I strained some thru a coffee filter to put into a spray bottle, the rest I watered my plants with.

MYCORRHIZA
Yes fungi/mushrooms may actually do the urban remineralization alchemy for us. Say if we used “transition group elements” rich soil amendments, ocean concentrates, kelp, shale, peatmoss, forest mulch etc...for growing the fungi. Mycorrhiza extends the soil nutrient scavenging capacity of plants up to 4 times more than its roots alone. www.fungi.com/
video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2276683453801912113  —Paul Stamets at the 10th LOHAS conference

EFFECTIVE MICROORGANISMS
EM•1® Agricultural helps maintain plant health by generating a fermentative pathway, rather than a putrefactive pathway that encourages the growth of other resident beneficials.
http://www.scdworld.com/ —Efficient Microbes    •    
www.emamerica.com/   —EM•1® Multi-use Size (12 ounce) $14.95

SOIL BASED ORGANISMS—The type of bacteria and fungi in the soil, along with the quality of the nutrient supply that feeds them, determines the health of the plants that grow in that soil. SBO’s, or soil-based organisms, are bacteria that live in soil. The SBO’s are extremely aggressive against pathological molds, yeast, fungi, and viruses. SBO’s produce and release powerful enzymes that sterilize the soil of harmful putrefactive organisms and prepare the soil for lush plant growth. Bacillus subtilis, a bacteria that is commonly found in the environment rather than in humans.


MUNICIPAL COMPOST TEA
www.eminfo.info and www.antioxbrew.com.
 I had the idea of using aerated compost tea to municipal scale processing of waste. A cities waste could be composted for humus using compost tea in the composting of the waste, then the humus could then be used to make more compost tea. The tea could be used to fertilize city vegetation and be sold via the tank-truck load to local farmers.
Boulderite Roland Evans told me that there is a guy who just got financing from European banks to start a prototype real progressive community development project near San Deigo...zero waste, live and work, algae diesel fuel making plant, new form of architecture...the works. The designer had to write about 10 books worth of material to give to the financers to get the ball rolling and it is going to be the pioneer to more such communities throughout the States and in Third World countries. This community plan must be going to use the Evans system of compost tea for their food production.

I thought of putting molasses, kelp, azomite clay, ground eggshell in as well.
In a large scale municipal compost tea system it would be good to incorporate a spiraling motion of the tea, as well as the aeration...As Schauberger mentions…In Barvaria farmers tone ascending notes as they stir a bucket of clay and water in a clockwise direction, and descending notes as they stir it in an anticlockwise direction. In the morning they sprinkle the contents over their crops. 178 Earthmind, Paul Devereux.

Pat Flanagan found that spiraling water could produce electric potentials of up to 20000 volts; and has confirmed that crystals placed in water do affect its surface tension for a short period. Water circulated over a crystal tends to pick up energy. Water exposed to electric or magnetic fields somehow remembered the frequencies applied. Pat Flanagan found that spiraling water could produce electric potentials up too 20,000 volts. Elixir of the ageless: Liquid crystal water, electro-colloidal mineral concentrate  by G. Pat Flanagan

Fred Alan Wolf suggests that “memory” is recorded at the molecular or atomic scale in water occurring at the synapses or connections between neurons in the brain.

Water is a receptive sense organ linking us to both the terrestrial and the cosmic environment…
 “Water is incredibly sensitive to minute environmental stimuli, as Italian scientist Giorgio Piccardi discovered  in the 1930s. Piccardi found that the rate of chemical reactions taking place in water solutions could be mysteriously affected by cosmic influences, such as the lunar and sunspot cycles, solar eruptions, or sudden cosmic ray showers. As Michel Gauquelin has put it, water is ‘subject to major changes as a result of even very low energy influence…Water studied in the lab is sensitive to very slight changes in electric or magnetic fields. Because water makes up so much of our bodies, these subtle influences must also occur within our own cells and tissues.” 176, Earthmind, Paul Devereux.


SHALE MINERALS
Most oil shales contain organic matter derived from varied types of marine and lacustrine algae, with some debris of land plants, depending upon the depositional environment and sediment sources.
www.colloid.com  —Wyoming bentonite, plus “dry” humic acid AGRO-LIG MICRO FINE – leonardite schale /humic acid products stimulate plant growth by contributing to the breakdown of soil minerals and increasing absorption.
www.bhbentonite.com/lignite.html —Leonardite shale 50 lb bag

SHALE COLLOIDS—Plant-derived colloidal minerals may provide the best form of minerals, for they are suspended in water and water is the primary vehicle of nutrient delivery in life. Colloids are extremely small particles and are 98% absorbable. One factor that accounts for their absorbability is their small size, which gives them a huge surface to mass ratio. It is best to take in these liquid minerals with food. Shale derived colloidal minerals naturally contain around 6% fulvic and humic acid thereby increasing the assimilation of the minerals. In the USA these products are being produced from Carbonaceous period organic shale deposits in Utah. They are naturally occurring "bioavailable" trace minerals from plant deposits 70 million years old. The good thing about these liquid mineral supplements is that they do indeed contain 74+ common and obscure elements which nature herself collected and combined. 
• ACTIVE Liquid Minerals site has a great list of the minerals and trace elements and you will see how many of them are involved in the prevention of cancer. www.active-liquid-minerals.com/contents.htm  —ACTIVE Liquid Minerals, this is a organic plant-derived ionic liquid mineral supplement, containing Monatomic Elements and Fulvic Acid in purified water. They also have another great product: Active Immune Booster that is derived from plantain and banana stem.
• American Longevity Majestic Earth Minerals by Dr. Joel Wallach is full spectrum' liquid mineral supplement derived from a similar shale mine in Utah. The Majestic Earth Minerals come in a 32 fluid ounce (1 quart) container and cost $18 at wholesale. You sign up as a member for $6 to get the wholesale price and you get his Dead Doctors Don’t Lie audiotape for free. www.majesticearth-minerals.com
• Humic Acid for Horticulture: Hydroponic stores sell humic acid, liquid silicon and Seaweed extracts that are ideal for sprouting and gardening. Diamond Nectar and Grotek’s Pure Fulvic Acid are humic acid extracts from Leonardite shale sources. Using mineral rich soil amendments for sprouting and gardening is one way of getting plentiful trace minerals with high bioavailability. Dr. Joel Wallach produces “Blooming Miracle Soil Revitalizer,” from Utah Shale deposits. www.wallachonline.com

http://geology.utah.gov/surveynotes/gladasked/gladcoll.htm  —Shale colloidal minerals from a geologist’s POV.
Healing Power of Minerals, Special Nutrients, and Trace Elements by Paul Bergner
Nutrition and Physical Degeneration by Weston Andrew Price

POO POWER~METHANE AND ALGAE FERTILIZER
The biowaste from cities and farming should be going into digestors for production of methane and fertilizer.
http://www.wired.com/science/planetearth/news/2005/07/68127
http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel_library/MethaneDigesters/MD3.html
http://www.epa.gov/methane/sources.html
www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdaR33FqnfU  —Methane release from oceans


Algoculture: Spirulina, Hope for a Hungry World; and Spirulina, Production and Potential —Denise Fox
www.spirulinasource.com/earthfoodch8a.html
www.spirulinasource.com/earthfoodch9a.html  —Microalgae’s role in restoring earth

www.solixbiofuels.com/ —SOLIX BIOFUELS —Boulder based company using algae to generate biodiesel. Their plant is in Fort Collins and uses carbon dioxide from a brewery. Algae’s single-celled structure is extremely efficient in use of light and absorption of nutrients. So much so, that algae’s growth and productivity is 30 to 100 times higher than crops like soybeans. Success comes from knowing how to select the right algae species, create an optimal photobiological formula for each species, and build a cost-effective photobioreactor that can precisely deliver the formula to each individual algae cell, no matter the size of the facility, or its geographical location.



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« Reply #6 on: September 26, 2008, 10:31:17 PM »

 angel Little problem of the hormones, heavy metals, antiobiotics etc...of using human wastage for recyling purposes, but perhaps we could nuke the hell out of it first, literally...then fix it with mychorizzha ...sounds like a winning combo to me!!!!!yaaa Handshake

On a more serious side. The gist of the urban tree senario this thus!! Listen hearterly shakespeare...


LACK OF AN URBAN UNDERCROP
Also without an under-canopy or ground cover layer the soil profile becomes panned and waterproof on top preventing the absorption of water; the soil capillary structure for water flow and aeration breaks down; dry hard soil profiles are unconducive to earthworm populations; without groundcover the surface overheats and becomes more positively charged, this breaks down the EMF (depolarizing) and the ground water loses its levitational microcluster structure…carbones/ORMUS/noble gases are released and water absorbs more oxygen which burns through the soils humic materials faster; without humus and organic hydrophyllic molecules the soil loses its water holding capacity; the soil becomes more inorganic and sterile and loses its ability to maintain microbe and mycorrhiza populations disrupting the nutrient recycling and nutrient holding capacity…the soils become increasingly leached, while the water table drops due to the water losing its levitational structure. (see Fertile Earth, Viktor Schauberger for more on this process)


No freaking underpants...key to the problem of urban tree decline.
Also grow prehistoric trees, eg: Gingko!

As I walk thru my daze and see those trees on their way out, I FREAK Woo Hoo!
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« Reply #7 on: October 02, 2008, 10:10:06 PM »

I want to talk about horny goats weed over here too.
Since my syrian rue tincture was such a raving success, I am making a hormone/adrenal tincture for reving up and creativity...not sure if it will invigorate sexual fires or anything yet. I made a batch, but it fermented and I had to throw it out as I used french brandy which must not have had enough alcohol in it. It will be finished in a month and will tell you'all how it worked out. Woo Hoo!


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« Reply #8 on: October 07, 2008, 08:34:36 AM »


COOPRADIO.ORG: NEM's Jeane Manning & Joel Garbon on Breakthrough Power

When: Monday Oct. 6, 2008 Noon - 1 PM Pacific time
Where: Vancouver Coop Radio CFRO 102.7 FM
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A conversation with New Energy Movement's Jeane Manning & Joel Garbon
on their new book Breakthrough Power: How quantum leap new energy
inventions can transform our world
http://www.breakthr oughpower. net/
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OCTOBER 9, 2008 BOOK LAUNCH (FREE):
New Energy Movement Canada supports the launch of Breakthrough Power:
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Jeane Manning and Joel Garbon.

Here's how we each can help spread the grassroots New Energy Movement
message contained in this ground-breaking new book:
- Please forward this email to your friends who are interested in
seeing new energy technologies become available for all. Feel free to
print out the attached poster and put it up on your favourite
bulletin boards too.

- And bring friends to the book launch:
When: Thursday, October 9th, 2008 at 7 pm (arrive early to be sure to
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Where: Alice MacKay Room at Vancouver Public Library - 350 W.Georgia
St., Vancouver, B.C.
Speakers: Jeane Manning & Joel Garbon, with a few words from leading-
edge inventors / scientists featured in Breakthrough Power.
What: Learn about revolutionary clean energy inventions

Who is Jeane Manning?
Internationally known sociologist/ journalist has researched "new
energy" technology since 1981, and wrote The Coming Energy Revolution
(Avery, NY, 1996) and Energie (Germany, 2000). She co-authored Angels
Don't Play This HAARP: Advances In Tesla Technologies with Dr. Nick
Begich, co-authored other books and currently writes a magazine
column. Jeane Manning is also a co-founder of New Energy Movement
Canada. Her books are published in five languages and she's been an
invited speaker at international conferences in four countries.
www.newenergymovement.ca

Who is Joel Garbon?
President of The New Energy Movement (NEM) based in Portland, Oregon,
a grassroots nonprofit organization dedicated to facilitating the
advent of a global economy and sustainable civilization based on
advanced clean energy technologies. Joel along with other new energy
veterans has authored an historic piece of draft legislation calling
for serious and urgent federal support for the research and
development of advanced clean energy technologies.

NEM: www.newenergymovement.org
What is the book Breakthrough Power about?
In easy-to-read style and with anecdotes and photographs,
Breakthrough Power introduces a huge topic ­ why the grassroots effort
to bring clean energy abundance to humankind needs the support of
regular people everywhere, and how we can help. The book presents a
sampling of the rich variety of technological breakthroughs that
could replace dirty fuels. But it is about much more than technology.
Breakthrough Power points toward a new paradigm of sharing, economic
justice and more peace in the world. Revolutionary inventions aren't
presented as the cure-all, but as powerful tools for building a
better future.

VIEW/COMMENT ON THIS ARTICLE:
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« Reply #9 on: October 10, 2008, 05:09:01 PM »

These people need a prototype that works and can be mass produced. They need backing and someone who can finance production. Then they need experts in manufacturing to implement the production. Who needs a sociologist? maybe when they bring it to market, they could use a journalist to help hide the downsides of the new idea and it's not-so-obvious problems can be swept under the carpet for awhile. It took a hundred years to realize the technologies we have are killing us, it may take even longer for the 'next big thing' to go bust but..talkin' 'bout "vested interests" keepin' us down, what a joke...

Did you know that there are wall street ceo's that now have to give up single malt whisky and cuban cigars? These guys are suffering enough to drink blended whisky and smoke haitian cigars. So money is really tight right now..my point is, don't blame the establishment, they're doing all they can...
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« Reply #10 on: October 11, 2008, 05:27:46 PM »

 Shocked wwat?
Nope, I imagine that book is a compo of the current state of the art.
Really all the bucks should have gone to Tom Bearden, but the bstdrds cut his funding instead of supporting him. Its that suicidal exploitive tendency us homoniods have. Anyways...its all gonna break loose anyway beer
http://www.cyberspaceorbit.com/indexfuel.html  —Australian water car system different to Joe Cell.
Take a look at this intriguing version of a joe cell water car...flipped if I know what they are doing, but it looks like the Aussies are going to crack the energy equation sometime soon. Anyone with a modicum of talent could be driving around in a water car right now! As long as you shut up about it that is. Tongue Undecided
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« Reply #11 on: October 12, 2008, 09:35:32 AM »

www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Hrpv21Ubf8  —Oil & Gas Meltdown Matt Simmons

http://environment.newscientist.com/article/dn14906-goldmine-bug-dna-may-be-key-to-alien-life.html?DCMP=ILC-tabView&nsref=dn14906 Bacteria that gets its energy from uranium radioactive decay. Has an exclusive environment 2.8 Km below earth's surface in South Africa. Rather than it evolving into this niche I think we should consider this microbe as having the mechanisms for life's origins.
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« Reply #12 on: October 14, 2008, 05:46:49 PM »

I personally think syngas and magnegas are a gas:

SYNGAS (15-20% replacement fuel)
This technique is more flexible than conventional methods because we can process a wider range of very different feedstocks and, at the same time, we can generate a wider range of end products - not just gasoline and diesel but ethanol and hydrogen. Or we could generate electricity directly from the gas produced. The system first requires processing carbon-containing waste, such as paper, wood, plastic and rubber, into small pieces with a diameter of a few millimeters, or thousandths of a meter. The pieces would then be fed into a "gasifier," where the materials would be turned into a gas containing hydrogen, carbon monoxide, carbon dioxide, methane and other hydrocarbons.

This gas would be further processed to get rid of everything but the hydrogen and carbon monoxide, referred to as synthesis gas or syngas. This gas could then be used to directly run a turbine to generate electricity, or it could be converted into gasoline and diesel fuel for transportation using a process called Fischer-Tropsch synthesis. The technique could be used to produce ethanol, jet fuel and other biofuels from the solid wastes.
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/10/081014145906.htm

www.youtube.com/watch?v=XW10almlMv0&feature=related  Dimethyl Ether, also known as DME, is a clean syngas


MAGNEGAS
Magnegas is a high tech fuel instigated by Jimmy Carter,.looks like this is the answer for transportation fuel...
MAGNEGAS~from sewage to fuel tank, new type of matter produced magnetically from an electric arc, with carbon electrodes. Similar uses to natural gas.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJ95cccW9es&mode=related&search=
www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wy0WXkj1Drw 
www.magnegas.com/
Ruggero M. Santilli: Magnegas / Aquafuel ~ US Patents & articles
"Recycling Liquid Wastes and Crude Oil into MagneGas and MagneHydrogen": http://magnegas.com/technology/part1.htm Santilli's Scientific Papers:
www.rexresearch.com/santilli/santilli.htm

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« Reply #13 on: October 15, 2008, 09:31:14 AM »

Regarding the death of the Murray River... Where the tidal system allows, large greenhouses could be constructed over tidal canals in order to collect fresh water, while the sides of the greenhouses could grow crops with this collected water. The system could be set up using technology that ran by itself without the need for human monitoring...Gaviotas has the technology to create passive watering systems using the soil moisture itself to regulate the inflow of irrigation water. http://www.dharma-haven.org/five-havens/gaviotas.htm

I suggest the Aussie govt. get Paolo Lugari, founder of Gaviotas or some of their engineers down to the Murray to work on the problem. The three main problems are 1.Dying source water, 2.Salination of soils and increased % of salt in river water, 3.Pollution from chemical fertilization and urban/industrial pollution. The solution must address all of these and not simply flush the problem out into the ocean.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarasvati_River  —The center of Vedic culture in India was along the Sarasvati...as the iceage water from the Himalayas ran out...the river and culture disappeared. The mountains supporting the Murray need to be reforested wherever possible in trees that bring in snow/rain. I just read that firs were planted in Tlemcen valley in Algeria on the verge of the Sahara and this bought in snow every year. Trees associated with the rainforest and with snow need to be planted. NOT desert plants like http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eucalyptus the aromatics of which probably repel rain in the atmosphere...(anyone got some information on this).


There needs to be a review of the tree spectrum in Australia prior to the big asteroid hit 250 million years ago. Chances are that if that asteroid hadn’t have sterilized the Australian landmass then the present flora would be far more diverse and more like that of South America. That hit and the ongoing desertification of Oz has left the Eucalyptus as the dominant survivor species. And I suspect that the volatility of the aromatic emissions of the Eucalyptus coupled with the pressure thermal movement of the upper atmosphere caused by the dry heated desert actually causes air currents to push ocean moisture away from the sunbaked land. The electric charge of the emissions of volatile organic substances may indeed “break up” the formation and condensation of raindrop particles in the upper atmosphere preventing rain clouds from forming. Leading to permanent desertification, which will only serve the hardy Eucalyptus itself and other species as resistant to drought as they. This Survivor Plant Spectrum lead to ongoing desertification and failed to build up the humus or provide the cloud seeding and rain attraction necessary to keep Australia in lush tropical rainforest.

Nursery Rainforest Greenhouse
Obviously at the mouth of the river where it is at its widest, the greenhouse could not span the river itself, but would be run either side with gravity fed channels of river water through the greenhouse structure. Planting in the greenhouse would include canopy trees (Neem, Moringa, and spreading Amazonian trees) toward the “height” of the middle, then understory trees either side and food crops at the edges. The five mile long greenhouses would probably be of either blue or green plastic depending on which nurtures the flora/fauna of the river and provide the least light-reflection (as such huge structures would alter the local climate). The greenhouse structures would provide temporary pseudo-rainforest to re-establish the natural river tree canopy—so they would start out at the mouth of the river and every five years the greenhouse would be moved along to another stretch of the river until the river is forested right up to the source again. Simultaneously while re-establishing the mouth of the river, the tributaries in the hills need to be reforested with Caribbean Pine (Pinus caribea), Firs and rain attracting species. Mychorizae produce a fourfold increase nutrient uptake to plants thus establishing a powerful root system in order to withstand salination and hold the riverbanks together. Mychorizae  also keep the moisture in the river reforestation stable thereby preventing redesertification and breakdown of the integrity of the riverside structure.
http://www.accessmylibrary.com/coms2/summary_0286-31746133_ITM

The trees would reinstate the natural shade and evaporative cooling system of the water…and help to keep the river water cooled toward the ideal 4°C as established by Schauberger. Schauberger himself may not agree with the idea of glasshouse structures “over top” of river systems due to the heating of the water…however these systems might be able to be engineered such that they actually cool the river stream with air currents rather than heat it. Over time the increased rainfall in the region would help to wash the salts down into lower regions out of the tree and crop root zone…the build up in humus and soil microbe life would help keep nutrients and nitrogen in the soil rather than leeching into the river and out into the ocean. The increase in biomass in the soil along the river would act as a sewage treatment plant for the transformation of pollutants, in a similar way to healthy bacteria in the intestines keeping pathological putrifying forms of microbe life at bay…and create necessary nutrients for the health of the whole.

SALT
As stated by Callum Coates, the trees allow the fresh rain water to infiltrate the soil....and here is the important bit. The presence of a forest cover has each tree acting as a solar pump. Gravity is trying to force the fresh water down but the trees (plants) are reversing gravity's effect and holding the fresh water up. As fresh water is less dense than the saltier water below it, this creates a fresh water lens which sits as a high water table in a fully functioning landscape pushing the saltier water-table further down out of reach of the vegetation. All plants require salts to grow and water to grow and Haikai Tane described this system in the Aussie floodplain system as a stepped diffused system of broad acre hydroponics.....feeding just the right balance of salts and minerals and water to the green cover above. Bare ground with over'head irrigation will produce saline conditions because there are no solar pumps operating to keep the fresh water in place.
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« Reply #14 on: October 17, 2008, 09:35:26 PM »

That asteroid hit provided the impetus for the breakup of pangea by the way.

Here is an NCAR scientist responding to my eucalyptus emissions desertification theory:
‘It is an interesting idea. Eucalypts have one of the highest volatile organic compound (VOC) emission rates of any plant species. Trees can control clouds/rain through these VOC because they form cloud condensation nuclei (CCN) that provide a starting point for all cloud droplets (i.e. a surface for water to condense on). We typically think of forests increasing CCN and thus more clouds/rain. But at some point a large number of CCN will actually decrease rain because you have many surfaces and not enough water- so the result is many small droplets that are too small to fall to the surface.”
Alex

He was working on the alarm chemical emissions:
www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/09/080918170819.htm —Aspirin-like chemical given off by stressed trees. Plant to plant communication occurs on the ecosystem level through emissions of volatile organic substances like methyl salicylates which act like immune system communication to prepare the plants for the stress of drought, fluctuations in temperature, insect attack or disease. A stressed plant gives off these threat chemicals and consequently warn others of the danger, thereby helping them resist and recover.
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