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« Reply #15 on: January 15, 2009, 07:30:36 AM »

Well put Jim. Sure, let's integrate it. Let's also integrate this idea:

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The humbleness of a warrior is not the humbleness of the beggar. The warrior lowers his head to no one, but at the same time, he doesn’t permit anyone to lower his head to him. The beggar, on the other hand, falls to his knees at the drop of a hat and scrapes the floor to anyone he deems to be higher; but at the same time, he demands that someone lower than him scrape the floor for him. ~ Castaneda

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« Reply #16 on: January 15, 2009, 08:58:05 AM »

The word "nobility" implies humility...for it really means correct or a priori spiritual stance. The noble knows that his or her power and knowledge comes from the suspension of egoic contraction and defense. Because all parts are integrated, natural reverence arises, whereas the lesser self of the ego is generated by dissonance, disharmony, and discommunication. This dis-integration is due to thousands of years of ongoing trauma and disrespect, demineralization and a deGenerating diet. As a living crystal of consciousness, our atomic structure must be perfected to a high degree in order to convey our innate spiritual nobility.

Trying to establish spirituality within physically descended populations can only lead to a rote, facile and disconnected spirituality that is based more in hubris, exclusion, status-power and affectation. That is a spirituality that is devoid of genuine autonomous illumination and transmutation.
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« Reply #17 on: January 15, 2009, 03:20:46 PM »

"egoic contraction"? sounds like ladi da. the only chance you got is palpitating somatic contraction, which is unconcious(who would conciously resist chi or the holy spirit?) and one needs gifted somatic help or amazing grace for that. back in my day we thought rolfing; but gentle sacred touch works? Beats me.  and a practice of reverence/veneration...have i missed something Roll Eyes?...henry
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« Reply #18 on: January 15, 2009, 03:47:35 PM »

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When you offer people spiritual solutions —or solutions of any kind for anything, for that matter—you are asking them to give up what makes them feel active, alive, defined— their ego structure. Be careful—it's dangerous!

Well, just for starters, take it that every human being is a perfect whatever-it-is right now. Every state of consciousness is perfect and complete, and does not need to be changed. And every change of consciousness is perfect and complete, and does not need to be static.

I have tried to cover all the possibilities at once with a couple of maxims:

Whether I am conscious of it or not, I am one with the cause of all that exists.

Whether I feel it or not, I am one with all the love in the universe. ~Golas

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« Reply #19 on: January 15, 2009, 07:59:42 PM »

getting back to the MOM...

Mind Over Matter is..
When the mind is able to arbitrarily reconfigure elements in the environment in conformance to some idea or imagined pattern. The best example of this is “technology.” The mind, using the ideas of science and engineering, employs the body to manipulate external physical elements to produce a new artifact (artificial configuration of matter) which becomes part of the environment. The body is the magician (agent) that intervenes, creating a nexus which then allows the contents of the mind to manifest by way of the brute force reconfiguration of the natural environment. More and more subtle techniques are being developed all the time.
Can the mind affect the environment without the assistance of the body? Can I make cold water boil by just thinking? I doubt it. The body is the conduit through which the contents of the mind are made manifest. So the environment connects all minds together through our bodies. Therefore, in a way, there is only one mind and one body. Any manifestations of the mind must therefore accommodate the existing configuration of the environment and the forces that prevail at the time of the work. Since a great number of apparently blind forces of nature (“the mind of God”?) are operative, the body is essential for manipulating matter.
As below, so above.
The laws of science and nature are the elements of God’s mind. The physical elements of the environment, including all our bodies altogether compose God’s body. Aligning your mind to the laws of nature and aligning your body to be in harmony with the environment is to emulate God.
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« Reply #20 on: January 16, 2009, 07:43:31 AM »

"Therefore, in a way, there is only one mind and one body."
If so then it is a way schizophrenic counter-intuitive sick mind and body that we are. take a bow

"The laws of science and nature are the elements of God’s mind."

The laws of nature and science that humans can perceive are not the Reality of the Universe's-Mind. Since we are not omnipotent we can only approximate a small fraction of what is there. Not understanding the Universe and Nature, we tend to screw things up royally before recognizing that we have to get over our anthropomorphic hubris in order to get anywhere. There are few who are sober enough, courageous enough and whole enough to drop the lens of Man to see what is actually there.

Thus we follow each other like lemmings over the cliff.
That is until we develop our core gnostic connection to the universe and transcend our dependency on the mind of Man. Then we no longer emulate God, but become God. The TETRAGRAMMATON
http://pages.cthome.net/hirsch/tetra.htm
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« Reply #21 on: January 16, 2009, 08:28:16 AM »

Perception becomes deception during the process of conception.  Grin

I think the tetragrammaton (literally "four letter name") is best translated as "I am who is" in other words if you "is" then you are part of "that who is" , which I like because it dovetails nicely with tat vamasi "you are that (which is)"


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The laws of nature and science that humans can perceive are not the Reality of the Universe's-Mind
Laws are not perceived they are conceived. The laws of magic, of which the laws of science are a subset, are altogether a subset of the Law (capital L). I like this formulation. Probably wrong, but oh well.

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« Reply #22 on: January 16, 2009, 10:43:51 AM »

"The laws of magic, of which the laws of science are a subset, are altogether a subset of the Law (capital L)."

I Am the Law! (try telling that to a policeman.)
    * "Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law" (AL I:40) and
    * "Love is the law, love under will" (AL I:57)

I like your law stratum, because it is provocative...espec. to the Wilber camp.
I can see you are using magic here with a capital M.as in the manipulation of the habits of matter-energy and forces in the Universe. Thing I like about Nassim Haramein is that he has full use of his cognitive capacities due to not being severely brain damaged by academia. This is why his cosmos is deeply spiritual and enchanted. He understands and groks the Magic of the universe.

Always Already—Prior to the descent of the species, and prior to our conditioning into our small egoic commerically useful self, there is our sovereign, Whole being that is at one with the Magic of the Universe. Thus we are Always Already whole and our spiritual journey is that of re-membering all that we are as cosmos.

“You shall not take the name of YHVH your God in vain" (Exodus 20:7). Mystics tend to get crucified for claiming the I AM GOD realization and since unity consciousness is the ideal goal of spiritual endeavor, it just goes to show that religious institutions have historically been counter-spiritual. The word institute means to stand in. For words ending in “stitute” the root comes from the Latin statuere, to cause to stand; standing, stature. We also get the word statue and statute from the same Latin word. Once our institutions are no longer like static statues, but flow with the evolutionary impulse, only then will they be holy.
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« Reply #23 on: January 16, 2009, 12:21:30 PM »

The Law determines what reactions will be provoked by a given action. Sure you can 'do what you wilt', but each action has consequences. The Law determines exactly what these consequences will be. Typically, I would think that people would tend to choose their actions based on the consequences that they most crave (or fear).

Love is the Law. If you want to spell the Law with four letters, this is the best way to do it. Love is connection and the Law determines (describes) how connections play out in a dynamic set of circumstances. Love, in common parlance is more about the feeling of connection. Anyway the idea works. But I'd say it's more like Will under Love is the Law. And everything else is under Will.

This is fun kicking ideas around. That recalcitrant residue of irreverence again.
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« Reply #24 on: January 17, 2009, 01:20:37 PM »

Starch is the major carbohydrate reserve in plant tubers and seed endosperm where it is found as granules, each typically containing several million amylopectin molecules accompanied by a much larger number of smaller amylose molecules. When starch is heated to the range 55-75°C (131-167°F) in the presence of water, the starch granules swell and the crystalline structure degrades (gelatinization) and amylose is released. With sufficient heat, the granule structure is broken down increasing the surface area and making the starch more accessible to digestive acid and enzymes, i.e., more readily digested. If cooked starch is generally more digestible than raw starch, then how is it that rats fed uncooked starch diets had higher weight gains than those fed cooked starch diets?  Perhaps it is because cooked starch enters the blood stream as simple sugars at a faster rate and so stimulates increased insulin and glucocorticoids. Slowly digestible starch gives reduced blood glucose peaks and is therefore useful in the diabetic diet. Cortisol reduces the ability of insulin to convey glucose to the cells, thus blood glucose levels rise—which in turn increases free radical damage and glycation AGEs (advanced glycation end products.) This stress and anxiety burns more fuel and so less weight is accumulated. Plus our topsoil has become depleted of minerals like Calcium and Magnesium which are alkaline-forming and buffer acids.

A significant proportion of starch in the normal diet escapes degradation in the stomach and small intestine and is labeled resistant starch. Resistant starch which serves as a primary source of substrate for colonic microflora, and may have several important hydrocolloid physiological roles. Hydrocolloids increase viscosity and water absorbancy thereby to stabilizing chime and allowing faster transmission through the intestinal tract. All hydrocolloids interact with water, reducing its diffusion and stabilizing its presence, generating a homogeneous mass, maximizing hydrophilic surface contact through which digestive enzymes and assimilation can work effectively.  Mucopolysaccarides, resistant starches and insoluble fiber are vital to the proliferation of our intestinal bacteria…the foundations of our health. Resistant starch should be considered a dietary fiber. The amount of resistant starch is highest in unripe green bananas (~15%) and drops during ripening to much lower values as the starch is converted to glucose.

Polysaccharides are also involved with that of the structuring of water clusters and zetapotential. If the fiber possesses greater order then so will the water. Interactions between hydrocolloids and water depend on hydrogen bonding and therefore on temperature and pressure. Negatively charged hydrocolloids change their structural characteristics with counter-ion type and concentration (including pH and ionic strength effects); for example, at high acidity the charges disappear and the molecules become less extended. Future science will no doubt reveal that it is the changed properties in the water structuring and properties of the living-water in our body from eating cooked starches that is one of the main causes of the descent of Man…by affecting all cellular processes right down to the expression of our DNA.

Fruit and vegetables picked prior to being naturally ripened on the plant also have a more acid effect in the body. Most fruits and vegetables are alkaline-forming and proteins and starches are acid-forming. Cooking and otherwise processing foods makes them more acid-forming. Poorly combining foods also increases their acid-forming tendencies. Perhaps the worst combination is concentrated protein and starch, such as meat and potato, spaghetti and meatballs, meat sandwiches. This is because the digestion of meat needs acid stomach secretions, while the starches need more alkaline secretions. When we combine them at the same meal, neither gets totally digested, this leaves acid-forming residues that create congestion, metabolic toxins and can be responsible for weight gain, candida and contribute to the myriad symptoms of the degenerative complex.

Because insulin is a mitogen and stimulates cell division and hence aging we don’t live as long as our pre-agricultural giant ancestors. Also cooked starch foods have reduced phytochemicals, vitamins and minerals which normally offer a balancing effect on glucose and insulin levels. I propose that as agriculture began and humans incorporated cooked cereals and other cooked starches into their diet, we declined in our size and became more violent and inharmonious. With agriculture and the cooking of starches began the glucose, insulin, stress hormone imbalances which have defined the violent course of our human history for thousands of years. Insulin Hypoglycemia may elicit irritability, aggression, confusion, amnesia, seizures, and eventually unconsciousness. Our metabolic distress causes a lack of empathy, leading to ongoing trauma which in turn produces the type of brain which breeds endless turmoil and disharmony. The misshapen and damaged molecules of cooked fats and proteins adding even more fuel to the fire of our metabolic demise. All the symptoms of our species and individual egoism could be easily explained by metabolic and neurological dysfunction since our emergence from the Paleo hunger gather diet. Varying degrees of distress and adaptation to a culture that puts us at odds with the way of cosmic wholeness and health.

The crux of the degenerative complex is the interaction of denatured food molecules and their relationship to water within living systems.

http://www.lsbu.ac.uk/water/hydrat.html  —Water Structure and Science, Martin Chaplin
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« Reply #25 on: January 18, 2009, 09:51:15 AM »

Metabolism is the single most sophisticated and complex branch of science that I've ever encountered. Beneficial microflora (and microfauna) are one thing, but a good reason to cook and denature food is to kill pathogens. Are you familiar with the concept of prions? I think somebody was saying it's some kind of denatured protein that goes toxic and spreads like cancer. Weird.
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« Reply #26 on: January 18, 2009, 12:52:34 PM »

Yea prions are cool, rate humanity is going we will be nothing but prions in the end.
Prions are similar but different to nanobacteria.

Excerpted from NASA docu

Nanobacteria are unconventional bacteria-like agents that can replicate new apatite-forming units. Typically they are coccoid particles having a diameter of 80-250 nm. Thus their size is about 100-fold smaller than that of common bacteria. Nanobacteria form small spherical units of apatite in nanoscale crystal size that are very resistant toward acid hydrolysis and can be formed under non-saturating medium levels of calcium and phosphate. Nanobacteria are self-replicating particles where immobilized minerals and metals could function to support life by providing scaffold for metabolic pathways and organized compartments.  Biofilm formation is dependent on the presence of oxygen, and can be prevented with several antibiotics and antimetabolites, but ultraviolet-light at doses detrimental to most organisms does not affect their growth and proliferation. 
Calcified nanobacteria are not only very resistant to chemical disinfection, heat, UV and gamma irradiation, but can also survive in lyophilized state for extended periods of time. Nanobacteria show susceptibility to antibiotics and gamma irradiation, which apatite does not. Stimulation of growth by light is a phenomenon common to many living organisms including human cells (Sommer et al., 2001). Apparently, nonbiogenic synthetic apatite and nanobacteria are very different. Apatite formation induced by nanobacteria is a biogenic process since it takes place in a biomatrix around the agent.

Nanobacteria may be regarded as a model of primordial life for they carry a self-replicating system involving mineral and metal components, possibly catalysts, immobilized and protected under apatite mineral coat. Understanding how nanobacteria adhere, colonize and operate, may help understanding how life started on Earth and Mars. it was postulated that mineralized nanobacteria biofilms, respectively nanobacteria colonies protected by crystalline apatite shells, might have survived extreme conditions in space allowing them to travel on the surface of meteorites
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« Reply #27 on: January 18, 2009, 12:57:45 PM »

I would like to pull testosterone into the degenerative complex, but thats a little too complex...and one has to pissoff certain sexes and certain races in order to explain it....Let a dead dog lie and take things from a different angle.

• If the fiber possesses greater order then so will the water. Thus we see how our minerals, vitamins and polysaccharides, and indeed all atoms in the body determine the nature of our living-water matrix.
• The crux of the degenerative complex is the interaction of denatured food molecules and their relationship to water within living systems.
•If the fiber possesses greater order then so will the water. Thus we see how our minerals, vitamins and polysaccharides, and indeed all atoms in the body determine the nature of our living-water matrix.
• The dis-ordering of our food molecules leads to the dis-ordering of our living-water molecules, which leads to health, consciousness and behavioral disorders.
•Since dental plague increases with the consumption of cooked sugar and carbohydrates we can assume that the nanobacteria phenomena has something to do with denatured starch.

The fact that cooking carbohydrates disrupts its nutritional potential, disordering the hydrocolloid interact with living-water and rendering a too severe insulin punch to the body, doesn’t mean one has to give up grains all together. Sprouted Ezekiel bread is dehydrated at a low temperature, either in the sun or in a dehydrator (usually at a temp lower than 110F). This keeps most enzymes active. The sprouting process creates maltose — formed during the digestion of starch, which is the slowest absorbing sugar in the human body therefore it is low on the glycemic index. Sprouting not only activates the enzymes, but every vitamin, mineral, and amino acid is multiplied tremendously. This produces a lower glycemic response, making it ideal for people who are trying to lose body fat or control their blood sugar (such as diabetics.) Maltose, or malt sugar, is a disaccharide formed from two units of glucose and is the least common disaccharide in nature. Malting the germinated barley helps to increase the concentration of amylases in the material, which in turn produce the maltose. Most commercial forms of Essene Bread are not raw, as they are both cooked and frozen, they are however easier on the body than leavened bread.

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