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Perhaps in time the so-called Dark Ages will be thought of as including our own. ~ Georg Christoph Lichtenberg

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[jimtzu]

check out this conversation with steve baeherman and paul levy about shadow, and the collective dream.  http://jimtzu.fileave.com/worldpuja-2009-03-17.mp3 

http://www.awakeninthedream.com/

[Jana]

“The Dreamer who dreams our dreams knows far more of us than we know of it.” R.D. Laing

Paul Levy is doing fantastic work...I am going to try and send him a personal email and ask him to do a book on alchemy...alchemy, dreams, the matrix, modern psychosis...he is the best!

Anyone got that Saniel Bonder quote about how movement in one direction creates an equal opposite force? Thus the psyche is a grand attractor, an artist of dream and nightmare...directing the show from behind the scenes...surprising us with the intricate complexity of twisted maze. Dazzling us with the trickiness, the wicked inevitability of the human drama.

[Francis]

Absolutely stunning! Brilliant. Thanks! It made my day. 

The unhealed, psychically-encapsulated (i.e unconscious) trauma proliferates by a kind of sexual reproduction. We form unconscious alliances with those that reinforce our attempt to keep the trauma unconscious. When we meet those that cannot relate because they don't have the disease, we help them by traumatizing them! Soon everybody has similar wounds and were all on the same toxic plane of awareness. This is the diabolic process.

We create our reality by connecting the dots of the waking inkblot. The symbolic state of awareness unveils the wound and stops the entire cycle of injury, retribution, repeat...

[jimtzu]

   i'm glad you liked it.  i listened to it a couple of times, and the articles on his website are good too.  thought it'd be better than listening to kw rehash the lines/states/stages 

[Francis]

Jung continued, “The view that we can simply turn our back on evil and in this way eschew it belongs to the long list of antiquated naiveties. This is sheer ostrich policy and does not affect the reality of evil in the slightest.” This “ostrich policy,” in addition to having no affect on diminishing evil’s very real effects, is unwittingly strengthening evil’s seeming power and sovereignty.

~ http://www.awakeninthedream.com/artis/triggered%20by%20evil.html


I’m not sure if there is any really hardcore evil or whether all evil is really just the result of well intentioned initiatives that have since run amok. I see a lot of the latter, and the following remarks pertain to that type exclusively. That is, evil born solely of a lack of diligence and conscious neglect.

Perhaps if evil is just a matter of perspective, all we need to do is find the right perspective. Judy Hall talks about finding your inner ‘saboteur’ through meditation and confronting him (or her). Typically, says Hall, we find that the saboteur is really trying to help and protect us but is operating based on another, typically outmoded perspective, or based on previous circumstances that no longer exist. We’re to form an alliance with this being and open the lines of communication on a conscious level.

I see the ostrich with his head in the sand as trying to shift his perspective, not as trying to ignore reality. Good and evil is simply a matter of perspective. Once we find the perspective that allows us to see how our inner evil arose and how it made sense at the time and from that perspective, that part of ourselves can be consciously embraced and integrated. We can then put, what was, wasted energy to conscious good (or evil) use.

So good is just a point of view too. From other perpectives, um... not so good. This notion tends to put a damper on rightousness. Everybody's except mine that is...

 

[jimtzu]

i don't think evil as an entity exists, but there are actions that are evil, usually brought about by beings with socio/psycho-pathic  mindsets, whose total lack of compassion for others or themselves leads them into a congealed sense of self where nothing else matters.  whether this mindset is hardwired or a result to a blow to the physical/emotional head is another question. trauma, of all sorts can definitely changes things.

[Jana]

Evil is varying degrees of separation from the Field...lifeforce or Love. The lower or sick nature built from millions of years of anti-biogenic practices and trauma. If you go look at Sapolsky's baboons, you see plainly where human evil comes from.

http://www.peswiki.com/index.php/Video:_David_Icke_on_Alex_Jones_TV:_Superseding_the_Reptilian_Brain

[Francis]

Good article Jana. I like Dave Icke. Alex and Dave make some good points about behaviour and consciousness. Control of people via subliminal or overt appeal to the reptile brain is perfectly natural. The reptile brain is like the higher mind's "landlord" The higher mind cannot operate without the blessing of the reptile brain.

Evil arises from the unbridled reptile brain. Evil reaches its full potential in the ungrounded 'higher' mind, when it strives to disconnect from the reptile brain. The higher mind merely advises the reptile brain. Whereas, the reptile brain controls the higher mind. The higher mind is grounded only through the reptile brain. The ungrounded higher mind thinks nothing of destruction for its own sake. That's real evil. The only advisable course of action is to reconcile the two 

The higher mind cannot do anything unless the reptile brain agrees. This is the human condition. The reptile brain does all the heavy lifting.

If you listen closely to David and Alex, you'll hear that it is their reptile brains that are concerned about the NWO, not their higher mind (excerpt 4, minutes 2-4). A higher mind is incapable of 'caring'

It is my view that, in this talk of global conspiracies that is ripe with paranoia, David and Alex are exhibiting exactly the type of unbalanced thinking that the following video alludes to:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VoAwuM4ZQbM

Do you believe in human sheep? Tell me about your drugs. ~ Robyn Hitchcock

[Francis]

Disclaimer: I'm wrong about two-thirds of the time. 

I don't let that inhibit my natural tendency to produce blind speculations.