Pitfalls to Sovereignty

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What is the first business of one who practices philosophy? To get rid of self-conceit. For it is impossible for anyone to begin to learn that which he thinks he already knows. ~ Epictetus

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[Jana]

From enmeshment in pathology...unfortunately we have to live around other human beings.
 Sovereignty or the lack of it is not a problem when we are alone.

Please don't include me in your "we" I am not letting anyone else in my we until I am 100% sovereign.
The thing is...using metaperspective to gain the sovereign state that dissolves pathology...then you can return to a peopled situation "clean."
The thing is that when one is working on sovereignty, those around one that are not similarly working on sovereignty have to up their pathological power tripping in order to try and get you on the bottom again...because when we are working on sovereigny we are a completely slippery pig...for we can instantly or within a few minutes or days process a situation and transcend power differential tactics. Sovereignty works outside...that is beyond the primate status dynamics and so we become immune to them.

This is not moving away from anything other than the sickness, madness, sadness and brain-damage that occurs in the course of normal daily interactions in which sovereignty is not yet incorporated.

[Francis]

Sounds like I struck a nerve in you. I was just trying to come to a consensus with you so that we could have a common understanding of what you and I were talking about. Nobody puts baby in a corner.

[Jana]

If you don't know what I am talking about by now, you never will. I have been working on sovereignty since Nov.'08.
I think I have pretty much finished with it now, anything else is fine tuning points.
I won't be working on my visionary piece for about another 1.5 years.

To understand sovereignty it is necessary to be able to see that we are still largely at the prepersonal level of development as a society. Our present pathology is related around the aborted and distorted growth of the personal self within a society that resists the personal showing up. Not only are we pushed and pulled against our personhood from the outside, we default on the personal self from the inside also...having no real models, permission or prescedant for the healthy development of the personal level. We give token gesture to Oneness to ease the pain of our separation and isolation, but as long as society is hostile to personhood we can never be connected to cosmos enough to join in unity with others.

Infantilism and regression do play a part in our collective retreat from and betrayal of the personal, as a backward attempt at getting relief from the painfully truncated and distressed personal self.
Through the base of a self-loving ego we can then incorporate (incarnate) the evolutionary impersonal and transpersonal stages. When you start actually showing up this will send shockwaves into our surrounding community and the people around you may various subversive tactics to try and put you back in your previous status position. Reacting against this escalation with indignation, sadness or self-pity will only increase the "wrath of the Borg." Instead you simply return to the stress relief and self building practices...exercise and Taoist energy building methods like Kunlun or the Inner Arts and this will offer protection from unhealthy adaptation methods which would only cause regression. You do not have to fight to get on top of those whom are trying to get on top...you simply have to get off the pyramid all together. Once you get off the power pyramid then you can stabilize your Presence enough to incarnate faster than stress hormones could tear you apart. Stay on the pyramid vying for power rather than Presence and it is likely that stress is devolving you faster than you can evolve.

[Francis]

Jana, quit channeling simply red and get back to work. These books won't write themselves, ya know

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uv-bFQFDwRA

 

[Francis]

I think this is beginning to sink in for me. I just had to put it into an outline format. I'm geeky like that. Anyway check it out:

TURN ON 

To understand sovereignty it is necessary to be able to see that we are still largely at the prepersonal level of development as a society. Our present pathology is related around the aborted and distorted growth of the personal self within a society that resists the personal showing up. Not only are we pushed and pulled against our personhood from the outside, we default on the personal self from the inside also...having no real models, permission or prescedant for the healthy development of the personal level. We give token gesture to Oneness to ease the pain of our separation and isolation, but as long as society is hostile to personhood we can never be connected to cosmos enough to join in unity with others.

TUNE IN
 
Through the base of a self-loving ego we can then incorporate (incarnate) the evolutionary impersonal and transpersonal stages. When you start actually showing up this will send shockwaves into our surrounding community and the people around you may various subversive tactics to try and put you back in your previous status position.

& DROP OUT

you simply have to get off the pyramid all together. Once you get off the power pyramid then you can stabilize your Presence enough to incarnate faster than stress hormones could tear you apart. Stay on the pyramid vying for power rather than Presence and it is likely that stress is devolving you faster than you can evolve.

[Jana]

Basically it is simple...and it has all been said before.
This is just my obnoxious version of it.

If we are largely composed of resistance to infraction of our body, mind and soul through living in a prepersonal/presovereign culture...then we have to drop our socialized being and identity and turn into a lump of protoplasm (via letting go and meditation in bed) in order to allow our larger, universal Self to reform and rebuild us. Then the renewed sovereign Self that is transcultural can then enter the stream of community without losing its integrity or losing its way.

Though it might take my entire life to build such a Self this is what I am doing. Not out of hatred for the world as it is, but out of deep understanding of our potential.

I just found a whole bunch of relatives living in the South Island NZ that I didn't know existed.

[Francis]

Set and match, to Jana. Bravo!

 

[Jana]

It continues, for some might say that I am self or other hating because I am focused on potential and not grateful for the here and now...and it is true that I am somewhat dissociated and disinterested in the here and now and have my sights set on a world over the event horizon. And perhaps this condition is the antithesis of sovereignty and that if I write a book on sovereignty from this condition it will inflame impossible desires for wish fulfillment and create all kinds of havoc due to social status patterns being screwed up all of a sudden.

[Francis]

There is certainly something to be said for enjoying the ride. Better work it in.

But anyway, I say, after all this: pitfalls, schmitfalls; the bigger they come, the harder they'll fall. You're on track. Nobody tops your focus!

 

[Jana]

Of course the world over the event horizon never comes, but I don't mind for there is an infinitude of worlds over the event horizon...as long as they are there I can tolerate the here and now by rearranging the furniture.

"A steady flow of stress hormones shuts down your perceptions, makes you blind to solutions to problems when those solutions are literally right under your nose, kills off cells in your brain (in your hippocampus), and lowers the resistance of your immune system to disease." Howard Bloom

HI Howard...you said it here. Since Obama is working for the international bankers and the Club of Rome he can't present a unified plan of action to uplift the people toward a brave new future. If we remain reliant on our leaders to give us a world that makes sense we are all lost. Obama's job is continue the slow encroachment toward global fascism while giving the appearance that it an't happening. Legalize "medical marijuana freely through the states to get all the descenting paranoids stoned and non-rebellious while keeping up a steady stream of scary bull to keep the pressure on and destroy the publics higher thinking capacity...and well you can see how it works. It is like a social composting rot technique for getting more and more money heading out of the masses and up into the top of the pyramid.

It is not enough to see what they are doing...the people themselves will have to rally...music, dancing...something to break the spell!

[Jana]

Participant rather than an observer?

The Self is the vehicle for participation or "Presence." There is really nothing beyond the Self of which to be devout or beholden to. This separation of the "observer" is the perceptual error that we seek to rectify with the philosophy and practice of sovereignty. Religions have told us that God is outside us and we have to work to be worthy enough to enter the Kingdom. And because the Gods of the past used to be punative and judging, this pretty much prevented the unitive experience.

The isolated ego is composed of our experience in the culture, it is not unique but a reactionary composite. If we drop the conditioned composite self we are already in the Kingdom. The fire of transcendence helps to cut through this limited casing of conditioning so that we enter a living devotional state. It is not that we worship or revere an abstract God, the universe or Nature. To be devotional is simply the illuminated condition of the sovereign state, which is not weighted down with cultural distraction and dross. Unification is devotional for the sovereign heart beats at one with the rhythm of the earth and cosmos. Devotion is letting go and opening to the sovereign Self, such that we are beholden to the enchanted universe and we ARE the Kingdom.

[Nickeson]

"A steady flow of stress hormones shuts down your perceptions, makes you blind to solutions to problems when those solutions are literally right under your nose, kills off cells in your brain (in your hippocampus), and lowers the resistance of your immune system to disease." Howard Bloom

Jana,

I'm bored with other sites and came back to play around here. Are you going to include the above quote in your book? (Editor's note: if you do, don't forget to put a period after "Howard Bloom.") I have no objections if you do, but you might want to know that someone like me will come along and say this is patently stupid and write off as equally stupid other stuff that you have written that might have some credibility...your loss, their loss.

I think if we sat down and talked it over, my mother and I would agree that I became addicted to adrenaline in the womb. Adrenaline is a stress hormone. From the time I was 12 until my mid-40s, I was never more that 25 feet away from my sidearm living in places and times and situations where all that was justified. Adrenaline was the drug of choice and it did not shut down any perceptions, but enhanced them and it enhances them still. There have been trade-offs: the digestive system isn't what it could be and there are times when medicine helps me breathe just right, but nothing happens around me that I am not well ahead of it.

Jana, why do you put all this stuff out there as valuable to see or read when the slightest cognizance of statistical probability will say that a large portion of it is bull shit. And why don't you answer my questions? Five years ago you had the courage to meet me face to face. What happened?

This is what I am talking about. Three minutes ago, five shots in the street in front of the house...medium caliber pistol. A motorcycle screams down into a barrio called La Matica.  It was a fix. I meditate. I have the flu three days out of every second year. Bloom's just another politician.

Jana, I think you missed the 6os. If you had not, you would have known that your following paragraph:

"HI Howard...you said it here. Since Obama is working for the international bankers and the Club of Rome he can't present a unified plan of action to uplift the people toward a brave new future. If we remain reliant on our leaders to give us a world that makes sense we are all lost. Obama's job is continue the slow encroachment toward global fascism while giving the appearance that it an't happening. Legalize "medical marijuana freely through the states to get all the descenting paranoids stoned and non-rebellious while keeping up a steady stream of scary bull to keep the pressure on and destroy the publics higher thinking capacity...and well you can see how it works. It is like a social composting rot technique for getting more and more money heading out of the masses and up into the top of the pyramid."

was old news 40 years ago. Marcuse and a thousand others and I had this stuff down so that every one of my generation knew it cold and still it did not make one goddamned bit of difference in how things came to turn out.

Maybe you need some fresh material.

Maybe you just need to get obscure and live the life of a true sovereign.

Ciao,
Steven

[Jana]

Howard Bloom's quote from realitysandwich is correct from first hand experience...the whole premise of Awakening Sovereignty© is to overcome the stress damage caused by primate power dynamics. Although people have been somewhat aware of the machinations of status stress ever since we became self reflexive we have never had a handbook that dealt with the neurochemistry, nutrition, protocol and practices for living within a hierarchical social structure. Building strength, protection and savvy in order to transcend the pyramid is what I attempt to do. Otherwise human life is not worth living at all.

What I write is not up to your exacting standards, so you shouldn't be reading me Stephen.

[Francis]

Stress chemicals keep society anesthetized and this blocks many people from realizing their potential for sovereignty. We're all being drugged into submission to, and participation in, a reckless and dysfunctional death march, laden with debilitating suffering and powerlessness. Somebody has to sound the alarm. Nice title too.

[Francis]

Participant rather than an observer?

The Self is the vehicle for participation or "Presence." There is really nothing beyond the Self of which to be devout or beholden to. This separation of the "observer" is the perceptual error that we seek to rectify with the philosophy and practice of sovereignty. Religions have told us that God is outside us and we have to work to be worthy enough to enter the Kingdom. And because the Gods of the past used to be punative and judging, this pretty much prevented the unitive experience.

The isolated ego is composed of our experience in the culture, it is not unique but a reactionary composite. If we drop the conditioned composite self we are already in the Kingdom. The fire of transcendence helps to cut through this limited casing of conditioning so that we enter a living devotional state. It is not that we worship or revere an abstract God, the universe or Nature. To be devotional is simply the illuminated condition of the sovereign state, which is not weighted down with cultural distraction and dross. Unification is devotional for the sovereign heart beats at one with the rhythm of the earth and cosmos. Devotion is letting go and opening to the sovereign Self, such that we are beholden to the enchanted universe and we ARE the Kingdom.

You've got it all now; the trap and the way out are both brilliantly articulated. I really admire your accomplishment Jana. You've successfully torn the veil off a really important process.

As Steven points out, his generation was content to drop the ball. You've picked it up and gotten it moving again. I'm reminded of the quote:

"Keep away old man, you don't fool me. You and your history won't rule me. You might of been a fighter but admit it; you've failed. I'm not affected by your blackmail."