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[Nickeson]

It took about one minute to read the Heartmind posts for this day. I find them all really demeaning...bitch and moan...bitch and moan or give support to those who live to bitch and moan...give support to those who degrade.  I have stayed with this site because Michael DuBois is one of the finest men I have ever met and I wanted to support the site of an American who is one among millions who do not manifest fucked-up behavior. But now I see no reason to tune into any more sanctimonious, neurotic bigotry and self-pity because it only comes from the feeble and I don't want their shit touching me any more.

I'm outta here.

[Michael]

Hi Steven,

Thanks for the honesty.  And the endorsement too.  I have the same regard for you that you've expressed for me, and hope that our paths continue to cross.

I tend to agree with your assessment of the state of the forum, though I'm loathe to pack it in too precipitously.  I love Henry and the rest of the crew in their own ways, and keep this place going on that account.  As you may have noticed, I don't participate much here anymore.  That's because the life and juice has moved out of online community into other forms, such as real-life gatherings and occasional meetups.  I just yesterday returned from an intense weeklong gathering of people I've never before met, and had an amazing and challenging time.  In fact I'm still in recovery mode from that...makes this venue look like a cartoon strip in comparison...  but then I sometimes like reading the funnies too...so there you go.

Happy trails Steven, and I love you.  Hugs to M as always...

[Daniel]

I agree. I'll join you.

[Jane]

oh brother! wet fish slaps all around....

[henry]

in 2006, when Heartmind was maliciously wHacked 3 times and a few here were personally attacked , i knew it was too much to imagine mD keeping things going. But he did . and the nicest possible group of people drifted in, and we are the last glowing ember of the old IN forum.... And i echo the frustration . As i told him then, and say now, pull the plug, that's your call. We all have or can get each others contact information and stay in touch.... This kind of communication is fraught with Mercurial Peril  .... i will be here until after the lights go out with love and appreciation for Heartmind

[Jane]

Henry, you are a sweetie.... sigh I remember when it was just you and me left in the wild west! That was fun..... lots of love to you. (and no wet fish slap)
Jane

[marianthi]

My heart bleeds.  I sure want to stay in touch with many here - even if this site dies.  Going off to look for my black veils.

M.

[Michael]

For my part, I'd like to add a few wet kisses to go with my unnecessarily gratuitous wet fish slap.

  to Feral, Marianthi, Jane, Henry, Jana, Jimtzu, David D, Daniel, Liz, Lawrence and all other IN forumites passing through.  I don't plan on closing the forum though I think I'll make up some kind of criteria for that eventuality. Such as if maintenance costs rise, and/or if postings drop below some weekly rate or forum moderation becomes necessary for example, then I'll give you all notice.

 

[jimtzu]

i first read this thread while at work and curiously noticed there were 18 guests on at that time plus a couple of regular users.  coincidence? conspiracy?  (my humor doesn't transfer well to print)

well let me apologize for breaking HM with my post of the 13,000  satellites (see i told you my humor doesn't read well).

this place is a fun alternative to all the alternative sites out there.  in the tradition of impermanence, i'll enjoy it while it lasts. 

[Jana]

It is true American's are trained in shittiness, but that doesn't mean they are all shitty.
Some of the best behaviors and awesome flights of spirit can be found in the hot bed of America...Daniel Ellsberg for instance.

I don't see baboonery as an American problem persay, for I met a Swiss lady recently who said that European's are down each others throat moreso than Americans are. It is a developmental situation associated with the course of history and our collective response.

As the trooper said in Restrepo "The best defense is offense." Americans have to be offensive in order to survive in an aggressive, competitive society...and so the mood perpetuates. There are various ways of getting around this...Money to buy good behavior; Power and buddy system; Style to camouflage and dazzle; Humor to bedazzle; Guns and muscle; Time...to let people hang themselves; Doormat-submissive-self suppression, pandering, supplication, sycophancy.

The best defense against baboonery however is sovereignty...or the growth to wider fields of inclusion.

[henry]

True to His word , Steven is no longer among our roster of members . The brilliance of heartmind is not in the cleverness or cluelessness of the posts, but the varied gifted intelligence of Friends Listening. Reverence for the process, and awe for who's listening ...today i reluctantly registered for the "beyond awakening" series, just so i could listen to Michael Murphy on sunday

[Jana]

You don't have to register, you can listen to the talk straight after its finished. I listened to Ken's last night.
Fricking awesome...he can call the Borg "fascist" and get away with it...when put into an evolutonary context it is not a hopeless fact that 70% of the worlds population are funda-mentalists. BUT we people having this conversation are complex enough to know that each of  us also encompasses the entirety of the spiral, and is not condemned to any label...words are only symbols we throw around to swap ideas with...words are not the ideas, and words are certainly not the thing.

Only with wordless, telepathic love can we ever convey anything...and if there is little love...there is little communication no matter how many words you use or how precisely you use them.

[Jane]

yes I agree with that.
TPL aka telepathic love to all....
.........
............wow, if we really all did that, we would probably pop like popcorn kernels sizzling in butter.
Jane

[Jana]

"The communal human vector-intention is the most powerful force on the planet." D.H.

Considering that the standard culture and its noospheric vibration is not condusive to higher life and doesn't even nurture the body let alone the land...we are now turning enmass towards finding our soul brothers and sisters...for life is too short to waste on a dying system. It is a biological evolutionary imperative and fierce organic drive to find others of like mind, because the planet is in such peril and vibrationally we can only come back to our soul and get into sync with the cosmos as groups of two or more...because the forces of entropic dissipation and distraction are so great. Thus it takes more than one to rise to our full humanity. The clearer we become, and the more we fall into sync and find each other, the faster we move into our planetary body, through which this process of social evolution increases exponentially. Thus the power of attraction, the precision, the coherence of vibration, the marriage of the mission become ever more pronounced as more of the family of souls comes into the fold of unity. The beauty of strength in unity is that we no longer have to spend so much time, energy and resources merely  holding ourselves together while the world tries to tear us apart. In this way our creativity and genius is given the power and the green light to fully come into manifestation...and even life and body support falls into a bouyant groove and becomes easier...especially once living communities are established. Joy and meaning become the thread that weaves our individual and joint lives together.

The more we engage in collective coherent behavior, the faster we will evolve and the less likely the human race will be an antithema in the galatic community. How far we get over ourselves in our own lifetime to manifest noble community, is how much we contribute to the beneficent continuum of human existence in the noble state. And yea sexual energy is one of the most powerful lubricants to evolutionary social cohesion, but we are going to have to redefine sexual energy into something more akin to creative-kundalini or cocreative-subtle energy in order to help eliminate the confusion arising from primitive social forms and institutions meeting the most powerful force in the universe...the collective joy and love of Life...in the holozoic Universe.

[Francis]

Sounds like Steven is fed-up. It's interesting in that he seems to perceive a negative vibe that acts as a sort of toxic psychic contagion. If you look at some of the newspaper and professional news websites, many of them have a terrible problem with their comment sections because of all the negativity that people want put there. This may be because anything that generally arouses negative emotion is considered 'news'. What kind of feedback should they expect when they are pushing people's emotional buttons with bad news?

Yet, even so, people generally seem to want to dump all their negativity onto the internet, perhaps as a 'safe' way to purge it from their life. Of course much of this displaced anger and aggression is of a distinctly passive-aggressive persuasion. The tiniest kernal of discontent can generate mountains of negativity. People need to ask: what is the real underlying source of my discontent? Why am I kicking the dog? And then step on it hard, as Steven is doing.

To be fair though, the internet generally is much more conducive to expressing negative emotions like fear and anger, than the positive emotions like love and joy. These latter positive emotions are much more effectively expressed in person, as Michael points out. And if we dump all our negativity into the blogosphere, then we'll have just the 'sweetness and light' left over for our real-life and in-person relationships.

Love as much as you can from wherever you are. ~ Golas