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[Jana]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CaZIGAJAS0c  —The gravitational effects seem far more extreme than a mere comet

What are the likely outcomes of a NEO Elenin event. Earthquakes, tsunamis, volcanos, collapse of urban infrastructure…being trapped inside a large broken city, roads unpassable, food and water supplies out, power down or grid down, meteor showers, fires, mega storms, tidal exaggerations, collapse of commerce, survival of the fittest, necessity for guns, need for community safety/support, “internet down,” cover for black ops and invasions, crimes, marshal law. Air travel out, GPS out, Cell phones out, More Nuke Stations melting down, dams broken, chemical spills. Old-time sailing still possible…save up on fuel and water. Possible EMP effects with incoming meteors…satellites out. …etc….anyone want to add to possible scenarios?

[Jana]

With a NEO encounter rapid pole shift, the pole would probably flip back to where it was and continue its slow shift. This would cause massive animal die off apparently.

Elenin (C/2010 X1) to have a heliocentric orbital period of 600,000 years. The comet came to opposition at 178° from the Sun on March 14 and will come to opposition again on November 22 at 175° from the Sun. The minimum angle between the Sun and comet will occur September 26 (1.9°), and between July 28 and October 10 the comet will be less than 45 degrees from the Sun. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C/2010_X1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_mQk61x-ns  — The ELENIN 2011 EVENT TIMELINE – Running commentary

May 9—90° Angle between Sun/Elenin/Earth
Aug 3—Crosses Earth Orbit
Sept 9—90° Tail longest and visible
Sept 11—Ele Closest to Sun
Sept 19—Equidistant between Sun and Earth
Sept 22-28—Earth/Elenin/Sun Aligns (Meteors)
Oct 9-20—Closest Flyby (Axis Shift/Earthquakes/Solar Flares)
Oct 31—Earth cross Ele-orbit (Tail Meteors)
Nov 11—Mercury-Venus-Earth-Ele alignment
Nov 22-26—Sun-Earth Elenin alignment (Axis/Earthquakes)

 

[Jana]

Consider the gulf stream, you can see that it is still beaded off thus this summer may be cool...many places will undergo food shortage...grow your own food this spring if possible. http://polar.ncep.noaa.gov/sst/ophi/nwatl_sst_ophi0.png

Always remember the Emperor has no clothes.       

[Jana]

THE APOCALYPSE
Today I am considering an old star core binary twin flyby generating a global extinction event, massive EMP which will blow out all technology, and brain functioning, crustal displacement temporary pole shift,  Tsnami up to 1000ft and asteroid shower lasting days as we move through the debris tail, burning of all forests, coupled with iron and heavy metal poisoning of all exposed water systems, breaking of all dams, exposure of all nuclear power station material and military Arsenals and a few atom bombs going off for good measure. All volcanos and earthquakes occurring at once and winds gusting 250-400 mph. The good news is that it will regenerate the earth and oceans.

Nemesis: Believers in Planet X/Nibiru have often confused it with Nemesis,[23] a hypothetical star first proposed by physicist Richard A. Muller. In 1984, Muller postulated that mass extinctions were not random, but appeared to occur in the fossil record with a loose periodicity that ranged from 26–34 million years. He attributed this supposed pattern to a heretofore undetected companion to the Sun, either a brown dwarf, a dim red dwarf or a gas giant planet, lying in an elliptical, 26-million-year orbit. This object, which he named Nemesis, would, once every 26 million years, pass through the Oort cloud, the shell of over a trillion icy objects believed to be the source of long-period comets that orbit at thousands of times Pluto's distance from the Sun. Nemesis's gravity would then disturb the comets' orbits and send them into the inner Solar System, causing the Earth to be bombarded. However, to date no direct evidence of Nemesis has been found.[24] Though the idea of Nemesis appears similar to the Nibiru collision, they are, in fact, very different, as Nemesis, if it existed, would have an orbital period thousands of times longer, and would never come near Earth itself.[23] Wkikpedia

Nibiru/Nemesis: Old Parent Star of our System?  Binary Twin?

Old Star: “The final stage is reached when the star begins producing iron. Since iron nuclei are more tightly bound than any heavier nuclei, if they are fused they do not release energy—the process would, on the contrary, consume energy. Likewise, since they are more tightly bound than all lighter nuclei, energy cannot be released by fission.[68] In relatively old, very massive stars, a large core of inert iron will accumulate in the center of the star. The heavier elements in these stars can work their way up to the surface, forming evolved objects known as Wolf-Rayet stars that have a dense stellar wind which sheds the outer atmosphere.”


Of the Moons of Jupiter http://www.solarviews.com/cap/jup/eurgal5.htm  Europa shows the same pattern of massive damage to one side.
Io,- Europa, Ganymede, and Callisto –

It appears to me that the damage done to one side of some of the moons of this solar system might be evidence for a periodic return of an old binary twin star (Niburu/Nemesis). Certainly the 12,900 year ago cataclysm at the end of the iceage is consistent with such an event. With a flyby the poles could do a crustal shift, which would slowly go back to its old orientation-trajectory...for the big cycle shift for polar flip is 100,000+ years...The sudden flip would explain the instant frozen great mammals...if the plains of the US suddenly ended up at the poles, then the return back to "normal" might take 1500 years which was the period of severe cold of the Younger Dryas that occurred just as the ice age proper was coming to a close.


Civilization Continuity - Ron Paul Hunter Sunday July 10 , 2011!
civilizationcontinuity.org
Younger Dryas “black mats” and the Rancholabrean termination in

http://news.softpedia.com/news/13-000-Years-Ago-the-American-Armageddon-Wiped-out-the-First-Americans-62897.shtml

12,900 "The evidence claimed for an impact event includes a charred carbon-rich layer of soil that has been found at some 50 Clovis-age sites across the continent. The layer contains unusual materials (nanodiamonds, metallic microspherules, carbon spherules, magnetic spherules, iridium, charcoal, soot, and fullerenes enriched in helium-3) interpreted as evidence of an impact event, at the very bottom of the "black mat" of organic material that marks the beginning of the Younger Dryas.[4] Nearly all of this evidence was found to be non-reproducible and has been dismissed as support for the hypothesis.[3]" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Younger_Dryas_impact_hypothesis

http://www.youtube.com/user/KurdstanPlanetarium#g/c/2891AFDCA1CAAEB7 I am starting to get a little worried here. Nearly all the moons of Uranus are scorched/blasted on one side...Titan of Neptune is also...http://www.solstation.com/solsys/nep2tri.jpg

Super Uranus Cataclysm
www.youtube.com/watch?v=jtKKVpONlgs The Uranus moons, if you watch this video, you see all the moons are completely traumatized on one side only.

http://www.youtube.com/user/KurdstanPlanetarium

I am starting to get a little worried here. Nearly all the moons of Uranus are scorched/blasted on one side...Titan of Neptune is also...http://www.solstation.com/solsys/nep2tri.jpg

Super Uranus Cataclysm
www.youtube.com/watch?v=jtKKVpONlgs The Uranus moons, if you watch this video, you see all the moons are completely traumatized on one side only.

[henry]

Beam me up, Commander mD , the Death Star cometh . "The good news is that it will regenerate the earth and oceans" .....chicken little

[jimtzu]

these two conversations from Red Ice Radio are pretty good on this topic.

this one from Andy Lloyd is well balanced and interesting:
http://www.redicecreations.com/radio/2011/07/RIR-110725.php

the next one from Richard Hoagland definitely has his spin on things but it's a "positive" spin.  why not make it all hopeful, eh?  his use of the phrase "fear porn" is most apt.
http://www.redicecreations.com/radio/2011/07/RIR-110726.php

[Jana]

I believe in denial...my cellular sense of continuity won't truly allow me to think that the end of the world is neigh. However, I am going to try and "pretend" that it is to rally my creative resources till the end of the year. We have a month and a half before we know for sure if something is up. As far as I know there is no repeating 13,000 year black-mat layer, which there would be if this was a regular occurrence. Also...the physics of the thing...if an iron core came anywhere near our solar system, it would suck up all our planets and moons...not just fry one side of them. So the Niribu scenario is unlikely. However, using it as a preparation for ones own creative death or survival is a great idea!

If come October the end of the world arrives, I am doing to take some champagne up to the tallest hill and watch it.
I'm not having any fun in this life anyways, it will be a relief not to have to finish my work.

[Jana]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YHCpLnqhCZo&feature=related    INSIDER SPEAKS OUT ABOUT NIBIRU, PLANET X AND ELENIN

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=eiqHqnqChdI    NIBIRU INSIDER REVEALS NIBIRU LOCATION ON 8/7 LIVE ON AIR ! - SLIGHTLY BEHIND ELENIN !

[henry]

thanks for introducing me to the notion of "fear porn" Jimtzu. This conspiratorial crap will hit epidemic levels by the end of 2012 . We hit our lowest Heartmind moments indulging it . Tobias Lars offers a visionary antidote in his "fear porn-You are a God being" youtube

[Jana]

Nonsense, we won't be around to contemplate fear porn in 2012.
Still I did enjoy equating an old star twin flyby with the event that kicked off Younger Dyers...it makes me think that this global even was not just a comet encounter, but might have been a much larger thing altogether...to upset human civilization completely for 8 thousand years. I keep thinking of those flash frozen animals and the wash piles of animal bones.

[jimtzu]

people seem to need the idea of a messiah (an external savior) or an "anti"-messiah (total annihilation, again from the outside) to make themselves feel better about their lives or lack their of.
hope porn.. fear porn.. it's all an excuse to not take responsibility (or be sovereign) for themselves.
whether destruction/salvation comes, it doesn't matter, what matters is how we live..react..act.. right here, right now.  it's only the little self that is saved or destroyed anyway.  we'll still be part of the big SELF (Consciousness) in the end.

[Jana]

Interesting correspondence with the Nemesis/Messiah Jim.

I had a fun day on Thursday considering an old star core encounter as fact after listening to some youtube, I ended up with the idea of celebrating the end, and gratitude that I would not have to finish my life's work. Holding onto the goal without focus on fun...is killing me anyways and slowing my progress. So contemplating death by Niribu is entirely positive...I enjoy considering the physics of cosmic events and connecting the cycles. We all can know for sure right now, if anyone has any contacts in Antarctica...for apparently it can already be seen in the sky...however...we cannot know, for there may be much hoaxery going on around this issue...which is a phenomena in itself. I say...enjoy it all.

[Jana]

I suspect people might be missing the opportunity of a near-death experience around this concocted ELE. The idea of "we are doing to be dead anyway" is a nice reminder to quality, value and qualia...smelling the roses and remembering one is alive. What better opportunity to sort out priorities and see if what one is doing has merit, while simultaneously trying to wrestle with the notion of just how much one is enjoying life and if not why not. So much good can come out of it, but not if one simply assumes a dismissive or fearful approach to the idea of global regime change. For me what hit most profoundly was getting the feeling that ones life amounted to absolutely nothing within the continuum, because of an almost complete wiping of the slate...that is both terrifying and reassuring in one. The only philosopher cool, calm and collected enough to address such existential questions...is Terrence McKenna http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBgCMPIIcAE

[jimtzu]

great links to the Tobias Lars and McKenna vids.   thanks.  even though a lot of the events in the "conspiracy" theories are happening or have happened, it's best not to hold too tightly the response to them, or anything else for that matter.  life life, enjoy life, just don't hold onto it, it can't be done anyway, consciously being in the moment and moving from there, again and again, is all we can do, all we are meant to do at this time.  work, play, do, be. do be do be doooo......

[Jana]

Poking along in the pinball machine of life in 3D programming with veneers of shoulds, musts and oughta.... there is not much to perturb ones trajectory, the Universe barely pokes back except in the ribs occasionally...on autopilot completing a plot written long ago without really remembering the jist of the cause anymore, certainly no climax or resolution to be seen...


God, the All is nondual. He doesn't care about our possession, projects, children, cares, or emotions... That is the beauty of contemplating cosmic calamity...it relieves one from self focus...loosens the stricture on our concerns...that we might throw ourselves away in order to save ourselves at a higher order. To be undone by the cosmic billiard ball game is the greatest of endings...saving us from global suicide at least...and so complete that holding on to life rather than enjoying it to the last is clearly seen as stupid. We could call it Niribu contemplation, total slate cleaning. Reset button.