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« on: June 23, 2011, 05:33:03 AM »

Pi is NOT a constant.

So, I have been riddling on the origins of the universe and the theory of relativity since grade 11 physics.  I know I did not appear to be paying attention, but something got in.  I have always been puzzled by these so called ‘constants’.  In 2nd year analytical chemistry I remember working away at a problem and discovering another ‘so-called’ constant and it turned out that there was a fudge factor that they only teach to graduate students.  It might have been K or planks constant.  I can’t remember now, nor can I remember how to do any of the analytical chemistry.  However, when scientist make claims about ‘constant’ and then add in fudge factors, it is very confusing for the average person to really just make sense of it all. 

As a case in point, when Tyco Brahe(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tycho_Brahe) discovered the discrepancies that would later reveal the astonishing perspective for mankind that the earth was actually circling around the sun and not the other way round, it still took years for Copernicus(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicolaus_Copernicus) to be able to put the entire picture together. 

Well, I have been riddling the puzzle of the origins of the universe and the epi-phenomenon since I about 4 or so.  It started with my sister Johanne, who would have been about 6 or 7, claiming adamantly that ‘there is no god, because if there was god then god would have had to have made him, and then who made that god, and turtles all the way down and so forth. I was hanging out on my father’s side of the argument,  “You just have to believe,” he said, “there is no proof, and so you just have to have faith.” Johanne was completely dismissive of this inane response, and I am sure that my father was secretly relieved.  He was a good Presbyterian, and he was doing his duty to continue this charade, but he was just not that convinced.  Maybe he just got tired trying to make his mom happy in church and so on.  (there is a lot more to that story!) Anyway, Johanne would have none of the ‘faith’ thing. 

I was derided quite severely by her too when I sweetly suggested that maybe there was just wee bit of something at the beginning.  “Well, who would have made that then,” she said dismissively, and I guess I was pretty sure she was right, but I was trying to agree with my dad. 

Anyway, back to the main part of this story.  The constant Pi has always been interesting to me.  Like why would Pi, an elegant fraction yet a very messy endlessly “infinite” number, ( like 22/7 or 1.13…. ) give itself up to be divided creating this confusion.  I watched the smartest man in the world do Pi division for a while on the You tube once…(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Tammet) it is very boring really unless you can think back to the great mystery of Pi. 

Anyway, I was thinking back to the mystery of Pi.  It seemed to me that since Pi was 22/7 with apparently NO Units, we must be dealing with 22(things) / 7 (things).  I always wondered what those things might be.  I have been watching for this to arrive and last night the (?an) answer arrived.  Here is it is:  22 CYCLES  and 7 (generations). 

The cycles refer to the time that it takes for a planet to circle its sun. (here on earth it is 365 days, and then there is a bit of time that gets adjusted for each leap year, and even with the adjustment, I understand that in very slow time, we are still losing or gaining a bit all the time)

The 7 generations have to do with the time it takes for the fibonacci’s equation of Phi to complete 7 cycles.  I only know this because of the aboriginal mythology about it. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_generation_sustainability) and it has to do with the actual regeneration of life(or something, something). Anyway, “consciousness” is an epiphenomenon that is related to all of the above.   “As with the macrocosm, so with the microcosm.)

The story of the birth of our epic of human consciousness is very beautifully written about in the Genesis AND it hinges on the fact that women lied about our sexual energy.  We could lie, because it is hidden deep deep inside.  And men didn’t lie, mostly because they can’t…. it is all out there on display, either you are into somebody, or you are not.  You men can’t fake it.  So women have been lying about what works for them.  For instance, I have watch pornography and I have NEVER seen a woman have an orgasm on film.  I mean a real orgasm.  I even wonder IF they can.  And this does not even begin to speak to the amount of lying we have been doing about our general satisfaction about sex, all we say NOW was “to not hurt our partner’s feeling,” “ you know, the old male ego thing”.  but This is not true.  We have been frightened that these men we have depended on would leave us if they knew how unsatifying our consorting with them really is/or at least has been historically.  Instead of being honest about what we like and dislike we have lied, and the lie really spun out of control into the entire story of the human race.  And so we managed to pair up with men other than our match, and then proceeded to be dissatisfied about all his efforts to keep happy. 

I truly believe that men through the ages have been trying their best just to keep us happy.  They invented all this stuff just to keep women happy… and still we have not been happy, we have been like the fisherman’ wife, the woman when her man brought her the golden flounder, still managed to not be happy.  We have always wanted more.  My mother wanted more, and my father gave up eventually, but I am glad I got to witness the whole dynamic until Grace.

The truth is that what makes us happy is to be living in love.  It doesn’t really matter where, or with what, but it matters that it is not fake.  It must be real.  This has to do with all manner of interactions, whether it is orgasms or how you dance.  If you want to be with your Beloved, you have to show and be prepared to stay on the dance floor until the great Aikido match becomes a cosmic tango.  That is it. 

So to all of my sisters and my mother, and to all my other sisters and mothers from now until the beginning of time, here is the thing: STOP FAKING YOUR ORGASMS, it is driving the men on the planet crazy.  Just show up, speak the truth and let go of the outcome.  That means that if you are not with your Beloved, clean up the shop or house, and go off wandering, and keep wandering until you find the one that you want…and then don’t back down no matter what.  We are all love warriors here in the ocean of the real… and we are all babies too… and It has not been the sins of our fathers that have brought upon this present earthly calamity.  They, for god’s sake, have just trying to make us happy. You know that when a gorgeous man like Arjuna Ardaugh and the rest of those wonderful men will even “apologize” (http://www.theglobeandmail.com/life/the-hot-button/conscious-men-apologize-to-women-for-many-years-of-bad-behaviour/article1973897/)  for all the stuff that has happened, that we better pull the plug on the misunderstanding, because the game is over.

So my sweet sisters, be honest, deeply truly honest, and be loving, “love until your arms break”, and then, “Bob’s our uncle” and we can get this next party started.  The mayans say it starts on December 21st 2012. And I am intending to show up and have some fun. 

Much love to all of you. Xo Jane

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« Reply #1 on: June 28, 2011, 01:27:10 AM »

Pi is NOT a constant.


Anyway, back to the main part of this story.  The constant Pi has always been interesting to me.  Like why would Pi, an elegant fraction yet a very messy endlessly “infinite” number, ( like 22/7 or 1.13…. ) give itself up to be divided creating this confusion.  I watched the smartest man in the world do Pi division for a while on the You tube once…(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Tammet) it is very boring really unless you can think back to the great mystery of Pi. 

Anyway, I was thinking back to the mystery of Pi.  It seemed to me that since Pi was 22/7 with apparently NO Units, we must be dealing with 22(things) / 7 (things).  I always wondered what those things might be.  I have been watching for this to arrive and last night the (?an) answer arrived.  Here is it is:  22 CYCLES  and 7 (generations). 

The cycles refer to the time that it takes for a planet to circle its sun. (here on earth it is 365 days, and then there is a bit of time that gets adjusted for each leap year, and even with the adjustment, I understand that in very slow time, we are still losing or gaining a bit all the time)

The 7 generations have to do with the time it takes for the fibonacci’s equation of Phi to complete 7 cycles.  I only know this because of the aboriginal mythology about it. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_generation_sustainability) and it has to do with the actual regeneration of life(or something, something). Anyway, “consciousness” is an epiphenomenon that is related to all of the above.   “As with the macrocosm, so with the microcosm.)






a slightly different take on your 22/7 observations...  the 22 cycles (year) are roughly the length of time between one generation and the next.  which leads to the 7 generations in the Lakota worldview.. the completion of the circle of life. so it comes together too using this metaphor.

perhaps the reason Pi is an "infinite" number is that by trying to confine a circle  in a linear model it becomes endless because the horizon is always just beyond reach.

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« Reply #2 on: June 30, 2011, 01:48:06 PM »

No, Jim, the way that figures: the horizon IS your reach....
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« Reply #3 on: June 30, 2011, 07:20:55 PM »

Pardon me while I ramble incoherently about this topic.

A mathematically ideal circle, regardless of size, has a ratio of circumference to diameter that never changes, and is thus constant, in that way. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Similitude_(geometry).  But in real life, there are no such mathematically ideal circles, only real ones, thus Pi is a mere mathematical fiction. More decimal places = more fiction.  The reason Pi is so useful is that many natural circles are well described by the ideal model of an ideal mathematical circle. Not perfectly described, mind you, but more-or-less, well described.
In engineering, we use idealizations all the time. Without idealizing the problem, the complexity of the mathematics becomes impossibly sophisticated, in a hurry. For many problems, it's a good approximation to assume that the earth moves in a circular orbit. It's more precise to assume an elliptical orbit, as Kepler pointed out. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kepler%27s_laws_of_planetary_motion
Note that an ellipse is just an eccentric (i.e., more complex form) ideal circle. The math gets tougher.
 It’s even more precise to assume no ideal model at all, but the math is impossible – literally. 
Pi is a dimensionless number. Dimensionless numbers are quantities that are independent of scale. The dimensions cancel out -see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Similitude_(model)

Pi is constant only because it is an idealization – it does not exist in real life. Nothing in real life is constant.  Pi in an irrational number – like the kind Lady Gaga sings. As the term implies, you cannot reason with Pi. That’s because it’s an idealization.  Pi does not care that real life is only partly described by Pi. It only exists on an ethereal mathematical plane and is wholly untouched by the mundane world.
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