RAM and the vestiges of self love...

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[Jana]

Speaking of really awake people, I think Robert Augustus Masters to be the most awakened teacher out there. But can we still love ourselves after being RAMmed.


There is a piece on flirting by him from his latest newsletter, but doesn't bring me any closer to the realization of relationship. There is one problem with RAM his insight is so penetrating that it hardly gives us the chance to Be, mess up and grow. On reading him, he is like the force of a spiritual atom bomb leaving nothing behind to grow. Not that he sets his standards so high, but that what he says is so true that we end up deploring our entire existence. What then if we cannot change to live up to the world seen thru his eyes. Perhaps the answer lies in this quote: "To transcend yourself, be yourself."RAM
 

[Daniel]

Jana,

   Have you been to his retreats? You are right, I was just thinking of how screwed up I am and how much mud, muck and myer I must dig through before I can unravel that tangled web of lies and dysfunction I call "me". In one sense, I'm a 1st grader who is dreaming of college.

Dan

[Jana]

I can tell the place he is coming from thru that same place in me, still I would like to point out that the RAM'edness of RAM is still just as ramming as he was in the 1980's. But heck that is why we love him for, we want to get RAMmed...but what then doesn't it just make us dazzed for a few moments then we carry on with our compulsive self-bandaging and placating.
Nope I haven't done a workshop with him, but I have fantasized about it, flirted with the idea, but the practicalities of reality make that impossible right now.
Perhaps RAMs approach to the pandemic of depression is to BUCKUP and face the music of reality. Whereas there is another side of things; that sexual tittilation/masturbation might be the only thing that keeps our body and consciousness willing to plod thru daily existence. Playing with fantasy on the sexual level could start us hormonally on the climb to greater heights of existence, and could indeed save our lives. Perhaps RAM doesn't want to treat us as naive spiritual children tho...perhaps we should face cold facts, like we will never find anyone for mature monogamy anyway so tittilation is a waste of time/energy, and a perversion of reality. But you know when you have got a good flirtation going with someone, be it thru email or whatever, I find other men finding me interesting simply because the hormones are shifting and the whole being becomes lit up with possibility from a simple flirtation. As long as we are not fooling ourselves and think that it is anything but flirtation I don't see the harm in it.

Perhaps the place he is coming from is more pedantic than mystic and so it just keys right into the bad-parent belligerant superego-prefrontal lobes that are the cause of our problem with existence, not the solution to it. I have been working seriously on my prefrontal beneficence for many years now...ever since I caught myself starting to naturally "good-parent" myself with complements and affirmations of worth in about 2002.

[jimtzu]

you've been JANA'ing from the beginning of time. being sculpted by time and place until the smooth edges of the radiant essence of your JANAoisity shines thru for all to see, as we do now.

"Perhaps RAMs approach to the pandemic of depression is to BUCKUP and face the music of reality"

the key is to open up and listen, to be able to hear the music in the car crash of our lives.

[Jana]

Bucking up and facing the music, yes that is the healing sense that RAM does provide...tho revealing to ourselves that we are fooling ourselves and pathetic jerks perhaps is the first stage of growth, but then we could indeed stay that that point alone, and move no further. I think you are saying that waking up to the music of the car crash is where it is at...appreciating the car crash as it were. Unfortunately my life is not dramatic enough to be classed as a car crash, it would be more like a push-bike crash.

 At least flirtation is an impulse toward relationship even if nothing else happens and nothing else is likely to happen without the stars being aligned, money in the bank and a vast degree of compromise. I had a little flirtation going lately which kick starting me again from coma, even tho I know it to be mere fantasy...at least it revived me a smidgion from my living death. If I got 5 or more good flirtations going at one time, it would compensate for no relationship and then I would qualify for a mature nonmonogamous flirtamogamy. And I will write a book about the healthy benefits of flirtamogamy.

[jimtzu]

flirtamagomy... i love new words 

to paraphrase... you have to be able to flirt with yourself before you can flirt with another..

when was the last time you were truly, truly flirted with? 

[Jana]

I did have a good flirt going with this para-fullmoon, however it is hard for me to convince myself of its reality, so, it is like I am pathetically insisting on the reality of a fanasty...but heck he gives real good flirtogamy...a born flirtogamist, took me to new heights of the art. 

[henry]

flirtogamy traps ormus, refining bindu into precious ojas  ...anonymous

[Jana]

Interesting you say that Henry,
 am going to read John Anthony West first and Esoterism and Symbol?R.A. Schwaller de Lubicz

 I had a woman show me how the very ancient chinese made agate tri-sided blocks in which a central hole was carved to collect chi (ormus). How they actually used this thing I don't know.

THE VIRTUES OF FLIRTING

Flirtogamy is playing with the fabric of yin/yang, consciousness/matter.

Tantric Flirtogamy is insemination of the fertile meme of ormus-ojas into the fabric of existence to catalyze the solar-lunar forces, to build the tower?the stairway to heaven.

Tantric Flirtogamy  is the breath or stir of life across the waters, generating harmonic design or sacred art in life. That is life as sacred art.

The Ka or personality gets to decide if it will participate in the sacred flirtogamy art of harmony and potency of consciousness.

Perfection of the trinity?Mind-Body-Soul, depends on proactive acceptance of the art of collecting and  refining the primary substance of consciousness (materia prima).

Thus the apotheosis, to confirm and renew at each mnemonic-moment in time the Divinity of the King and Queen.

Existence is remembrance through Mnemosyne?the Mother of the Muses. The immortal soul remembers eternity by the exuberant play of flirtogamy. 

We thus can overcome the misleading nature of the matter-body through katharsis of ignorance?anamnesis.

The body in time or Temple is a meaning-talisman that must be activated, catalyzed, and initiated by Presence of the Eternal Sun Ra.

We thus move with the power of flirtogamy at the speed of our understanding of the various successive initiations.

To the reconcililation of secular-matter and sacred-spirit?uniting the hidden inner world with the mundane to build-reveal a Universe with pure consciousness.

All is flirtogamy, the sacred play of the poles, hemispheres, sexes and charges.

The King and Queen are not imprisioned in matter and impulse but rule above it in a flirtogamous play with Eternity's playthings.

The Duality of id? and pingal??...the positive and negative are two sides of the same thing because they cannot exist in isolation.

They are manifest through the Great Play of Eternal Flirtogamy!

[marianthi]

?Flirt fearlessly and watch out for what the clouds will bring your way?.

Anonimous.

[marshall]

Hahahohohehe,
drama seems so married to me....
might I, may I, be so bold
to interject, to here unfold...

the baser levels are here to stay
while virtues tend to lead the way
so be not fooled, nor lead astray
by the pre-s of here or yesterday

flirt one may, flirt one might,
to pass the time, to ease the fright,
but we are human and do unfold
complexities felt
not ever told