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[Jana]

OZ DROUGHT

http://pesn.com/2007/04/29/9500467_DeMeo_drought_abatement/  ?Orgone Machine
http://www.abc.net.au/canberra/stories/s1837203.htm?backyard  ?Air-water Harvester
http://forums.permaculture.org.au/index.php  ?Place to post new tech.

http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index1006.htm  ?Mass Evacuation of Oz

?Climate change over the next 20 years could result in a global catastrophe costing millions of lives in wars and natural disasters.

A secret report, suppressed by US defence chiefs and obtained by The Observer, warns that major European cities will be sunk beneath rising seas as Britain is plunged into a 'Siberian' climate by 2020. Nuclear conflict, mega-droughts, famine and widespread rioting will erupt across the world.

The document predicts that abrupt climate change could bring the planet to the edge of anarchy as countries develop a nuclear threat to defend and secure dwindling food, water and energy supplies. The threat to global stability vastly eclipses that of terrorism, say the few experts privy to its contents.

'Disruption and conflict will be endemic features of life,' concludes the Pentagon analysis. 'Once again, warfare would define human life.?

[Michael]

Doesn't sound like a happy prospect Jana.  Sorry if I don't strike the right note here, I've been working my brains out lately on the local landfill issue. 

So this is what came to mind when I read your post (from the movie Ghostbusters):

Fire and brimstone coming down from the skies. Rivers and seas boiling.  Forty years of darkness. Earthquakes, volcanoes...
The dead rising from the grave.
Human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together - mass hysteria.

 

[Jana]

Well times have never been more interesting.
The enemy is apparent, and it is us.
While I doubt it will come to 11 millions of Aussies moving up to your neighbour hood, the pressure of world change does pose the question...what the F* am I doing on this planet.
So, this is good, it allows us a little introspection.
While each of us can't solve the big issues, we can each do our part, and we can join groups that are doing things.
We should start compiling a list of things we can do
Here is my beginning list:
Grow plants, propagate trees for food and reforestation.
Establish groundcover in river catchments.
Remineralize the earth.
Invest in or invent new technologies for de-pollution and energy generation.
Create santuaries for endangered species.
Educate young people and reassure the old.
Work to clean up political corruption.
Liberate people from the forces of exploitation and disinformation.
Sell your car.
Grow your own food.

[jimtzu]

if that's not a wake up call, i don't know what is. 
i looked at the weather site for OZ and there wasn't a cloud over the whole continent today.
and nary a mention in the media of any of it......

[Daniel]

If this comes to pass prepare for hordes of red meme looters and thieves being lead by Attila The Hun knocking at your door. Maybe it's time to invest in a good gun and take some shooting lessons.

Dan

[Jana]

Alex Jones on google video (www.infowars.com) is the man to watch for inspiration.

I think we should all stand up on our soap boxes and scream...no one does that anymore, we have become a race of observers, TV whores, sappy lambs, we need some fight banged back into us and our gumballs taken away by bullies.

I know one thing for sure we should all be taking up arms and martial arts against the encroaching tyranny. The New World Order Industrial Military complex is undermining quality of human life around the globe, undermining thousands of years of civilization and development of law.

At this point meditation without the active fight to maintain liberty, might be just about the most stupid thing a human could do...hence not exactly a spiritual practice.

[marshall]

Hell yes, Jana! Often times I feel that those who espouse the virtues of meditation, prayer and other forms of magical thinking are as complicit in the murder of a world as those who spread mis/dis-information about the true threats such as global warming.

[Jana]

Hi Marshall,
The jury seems out on all fronts at present. There is one good thing about hyper-tiger syndrome, where everywhere we turn with our technology there is a new threat...its just after a while you get sick of having your adrenaline spike over one thing after another, and you no longer get excited about any threat. That is one think Bush didn't count on with his terror war, the fact that we just plain get sick of fear and turn it off.

[maryw]

Bishop Desmond Tutu, very active in the fight against oppression in South Africa, married with 4 children, meditates for 2 hours a day ... He says it gives him strength for the journey, nourishment for the long struggles ...

[Jana]

THE BOOK OF FALLACY, by KW?Ken?s people need to compile a little black book of fallacies, (like Crowley?s The Book of Law) for massive mass publication.

I think Ken?s greatest contribution is his rationalism and his work on fallacies. Even so the rationalism of KW has not made much of an impact on the culture at large, except in those who have read him and learnt to separate their up from their down. But then neither has the rationalism of Plato and Aristotle.

Conversation in this messy mixed up age, where we have more information than we know what to do with, can be a very disappointing affair?Since we are not trained in the art of thinking or rationality, social discourse beyond Wilberworld oft is pointless through missing the mark of a sane rational foundation on which to base a human exchange. What is rationality if not the ability of through to ground itself in the reality of the Kosmos?

Take for example my recent conversation with the most attractive ?Married? man in Boulder. The subject of 2012 came up and a number of fallacies or errors in rationality ensued.
1. In response to my saying our astrophysics is rudimentary and that there are some ?radiant? effects of blackholes?he said??but the Mayans astrophysics and mathematics was not?as if the Mayans knew what we knew thru science and much more besides. (Sure we have lost some innate Gnostic perception, but generally science has moved beyond myth and anthropomorphic projection onto the universe?We know far more about the cosmos than the Mayans ever did.)

2. He assumed that our solar system was more exposed to the blackhole at the center of the galaxy as it passes thru the ecliptic, whereas if anything it becomes less exposed, because the density of star systems is far greater at the ecliptic. This shows not just ignorance, but a general dissociation and inability to visualize our earth-orientation in the cosmos.

3. Running off with this primary disorientation fallacy, he then proceeded to say that since earth will be more exposed to the black hole, that life will be ?sucked? out of us. As if the 26,000 Light Years (8 kiloparsecs) between us and the galactic center, and our own solar and earth fields gave us no immunity from this ?sucking power? of the blackhole. (The Milky Way is 100,000 Light Years across)

My thinking tells me that the only real effects to us on passing thru the ecliptic will be a slight alteration of the sun?s magnetosphere. Solar max is in 2011 and they do not predict it to be any different than the normal cycle. I theorize that there might be a slight increase in cosmic rays in the middle of the ecliptic plane which would mean a minor increase in mutation and cancer rates, say around .01%. Increased cosmic rays will also mean more cloud development, so chances are that increased cooling and rainfall will counter some of the aggravating turbulent of solar max. So chances are that the period from 2010-2013 will be a particularly fecundant and productive period.

Normally solar max is associated with increased warfare and the production of babies susceptible to schizophrenia if it is a particularly large solar max. However if we do get increased cloud cover from the higher level of cosmic rays, then the cleansing effect of increased rainfall, plus generation of negative ions will mean it will be uncommonly peaceful and rejuvenating solar max. One thing we will have to watch for will be great flooding?so we should be preparing for that now, especially in the tropics. Rainfall is what the Aussies are praying for right now, so if my rudimentary logic holds up, then just might get it in a few years.


The Consolation of Philosophy by Ancius Boethius
 http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-534241969872696254&q=hermetics  ?Manly Hall, Love of Truth
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7422451085322977929&q=hermetics  ws   ?Manly P. Hall- Success is the Accomplishment of The Necessary

[marshall]

Carl Sagan wrote that the cumulative effect of the greenhouse gases we put into the air today, will take 50-100 years to peak. I never hear or read anyone else addressing that point.

A few days ago I felt the heat radiating from my car's engine and started to contemplate about how much heat we humans introduce into our environment. I tried to imagine how that factors into the global warming equation and realized that I've never heard mention of such factors.

On the more positive side; I no longer irrationally cry or mourn for the Vegetable Kingdom, or insects, bacteria, etc.

[Jana]

One can compare the demise of the honeybee as a forerunner to the collapse of human colonies. We must ask, should the honeybees be "made" to go back and live in sick hives...it is spiritually and physically impossible for them to do so...the more enlightened the honeybee the faster it will recognize that hey this frecking hive an't working for me...its every bee for hizself!!!   

Gunther Hauk
Regarding the strange phenomenon
of Colony Collapse Disorder (CCD),
in which honeybee colonies leave their
homes and do not return, I would suggest
the following train of thought. When
stress, poisoning, unhealthy food, and
exploitative practices, coupled with lack
of respect and esteem, all reach a certain
level, the spiritual core, that part of a being
that keeps the organism healthy, is
compromised. When we look at an animal,
we perceive its material body. Historical
Native Americans, still clairvoyant,
?saw? that spiritual entity that governs
the animal?s life instincts with complete
wisdom. They called this spiritual being
the ?Great Bear? or ?Great Buffalo.? We
would suggest that when the ?Great Bee?
experiences all these destructive forces,
she withdraws from the physical entity.
When the spiritual center of the colony
is thus weakened, the individual bee
flies out and does not come back. There
is really nothing to come back to. The
Great Bee, which might also be called the
group soul, cannot maintain the integrity
of the colony.

Albert Einstein is reported to have said,
?If honeybees become extinct, human
society will follow in four years.? And Rudolf
Steiner, the great scientist and innovator
of the 20th century, warned in 1923
that unless we change our mechanistic
way of beekeeping, the honeybee might
not survive the century. Seeing deeper
into nature than most people, he stated
that our very lives depend on beekeeping
(refer to Steiner?s book Bees).
Our own lives depend on whether we
decide to take responsibility for our role
in the decline of the honeybee. If we do,
this crisis may become a true turning
point in the creation of a life-sustaining
agriculture.

www.acresusa.com

[Jana]

Fact is there is simply to many humans living in this suicide civilization, earth can't support non-scentience. eg: if indeed the south pacific has maxed out its ability to uptake carbon dioxide that means the trajectory of increase in CO2 in the atmosphere is going to be steeper, inflating human settlement disruption which will cause ongoing stress and chaos which will take us even further from a measured sane approach to turning things around. One of the things one can do...is plant trees, grow high-integrity food, take care of the river systems...and change the large corporations and governments via methods suggested by John Perkins (economic hitman) on google video. Coutnries and corps need to be shamed and exposed into doing the right thing, and individuals must be doing the right thing in order to shame and expose those who aren't.

Check out "permaculture forums" for action groups and solutions.

[Jana]

...data from 1981 through 2004 show the sink is already full of carbon dioxide.
But they forgot to mention that the warming of the ocean means it holds less CO and will start liberating the CO it holds in its sink. And that with the loss of the ocean as an ongoing sink it means the build up of more CO in the atmosphere.

Southern Ocean Loaded With Carbon Dioxide
By Deborah Zabarenko
Reuters
WASHINGTON (May 19) - The Southern Ocean around Antarctica is so loaded with carbon dioxide that it can barely absorb any more, so more of the gas will stay in the atmosphere to warm up the planet, scientists reported on Thursday.

Human activity is the main culprit, said researcher Corinne Le Quere, who called the finding very alarming.

The phenomenon wasn't expected to be apparent for decades, Le Quere said in a telephone interview from the University of East Anglia in Britain.

"We thought we would be able to detect these only the second half of this century, say 2050 or so," she said. But data from 1981 through 2004 show the sink is already full of carbon dioxide. "So I find this really quite alarming."

The Southern Ocean is one of the world's biggest reservoirs of carbon, known as a carbon sink. When carbon is in a sink -- whether it's an ocean or a forest, both of which can lock up carbon dioxide -- it stays out of the atmosphere and does not contribute to global warming .

The new research, published in the latest edition of the journal Science, indicates that the Southern Ocean has been saturated with carbon dioxide at least since the 1980s.

This is significant because the Southern Ocean accounts for 15 percent of the global carbon sink, Le Quere said.


Global Warming Spurs Winds

Increased winds over the last half-century are to blame for the change, Le Quere said. These winds blend the carbon dioxide throughout the Southern Ocean, mixing the naturally occurring carbon that usually stays deep down with the human-caused carbon.

When natural carbon is brought up to the surface by the winds, it is harder for the Southern Ocean to accommodate more human-generated carbon, which comes from factories, coal-fired power plants and petroleum-powered motor vehicle exhaust.

The winds themselves are caused by two separate human factors.
First, the human-spawned ozone depletion in the upper atmosphere over the Southern Ocean has created large changes in temperature throughout the atmosphere, Le Quere said.

Second, the uneven nature of global warming has produced higher temperatures in the northern parts of the world than in the south, which has also made the winds accelerate in the Southern Ocean.

"Since the beginning of the industrial revolution the world's oceans have absorbed about a quarter of the 500 gigatons (500 billion tons) of carbon emitted into the atmosphere by humans," Chris Rapley of the British Antarctic Survey said in a statement.

"The possibility that in a warmer world the Southern Ocean -- the strongest ocean sink -- is weakening is a cause for concern," Rapley said.

Another sign of warming in the Antarctic was reported on Tuesday by NASA , which found vast areas of snow melted on the southern continent in 2005 in a process that may accelerate invisible melting deep beneath the surface.

[Jana]

http://www.ens-newswire.com/ens/may2007/2007-05-21-09.asp#anchor6  ?New process of making hydrogen from water using aluminum.
http://www.electrifyingtimes.com/ClooneyTango.html  ?George Clooney?s tango
http://www.electrifyingtimes.com/environmentalmotors/environmentalmotors.html  ?Opening of the first electric car dealership